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Things are Starting to Heat Up Part VI 10
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I was wondering how insurance companies were handling this:
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Carbon footprint of food stuff: ![[pipe]](/data/assets/smilies/pipe.gif "[pipe] [pipe]")
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TugboatEng
Marine/Ocean
I've seen that chart before, it's an oldie. Anyways, their logic is flawed. Think about this. When a plant dies it decomposes into methane. When a cow eats plants it converts them into fats which don't decompose so readily or are decomposed into CO2 which has less GHG potential. Cows literally sequester greenhouse gasses.
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There's quite a scatter... but they are still at the top of the list...
[URL unfurl="true"]https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1672435339/tips/Cows_exbdub.pdf[/url]
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[URL unfurl="true"]https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1672435339/tips/Cows_exbdub.pdf[/url]
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LionelHutz
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dik said:
Unlike many of your posts for the last 6 threads?
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GregLocock
Automotive
Yes the Arctic and Siberia has warmed up a bit. Averages are a nice way of emphasising the unimportant.
Now, using your engineering head, as opposed to global warming scream monkey, what would your graph look like if we concentrated on where people mostly live, given what the map shows?
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Now, using your engineering head, as opposed to global warming scream monkey, what would your graph look like if we concentrated on where people mostly live, given what the map shows?
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Now, using your engineering head, as opposed to global warming denial monkey, what would your graph look like if we concentrated how the global climate affects where people mostly live, given what the map shows?
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GregLocock
Automotive
What the scream monkey's don't tell you
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TugboatEng
Marine/Ocean
I think the global warming acceptors lack the engineering head as they don't even understand the difference between energy and temperature.
GregLocock
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PS I'm not a denialist, I agree that the largely anthropogenic increase in CO2 (and other correlated effects) is responsible for a majority of the temperature rise since 1880. So according to the bogus studies on consensus I'm inside the consensus.
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I don't see any sign we are really doing much that is effective about it
It would be vastly better to adapt to any changes (which are mostly trivial and have known solutions) rather than trying to do the impossible.
Transferring manufacturing to 'developing' countries is of no net benefit, in fact CO2 wise it is probably a backward step.
If we are going to decarbonize (especially energy generation) then there needs to be a sensible plan, not Field of Dreams announcements by pollies and their cronies.
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But
I don't see any sign we are really doing much that is effective about it
It would be vastly better to adapt to any changes (which are mostly trivial and have known solutions) rather than trying to do the impossible.
Transferring manufacturing to 'developing' countries is of no net benefit, in fact CO2 wise it is probably a backward step.
If we are going to decarbonize (especially energy generation) then there needs to be a sensible plan, not Field of Dreams announcements by pollies and their cronies.
Cheers
Greg Locock
New here? Try reading these, they might help FAQ731-376
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TugboatEng
Marine/Ocean
The end result will be: life goes on.
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GregLocock
Automotive
It would be vastly better to adapt to any changes (which are mostly trivial and have known solutions) rather than trying to do the impossible.
So, forget batteries, switch to natural gas rather than coal, and ideally nuclear instead of natural gas. Mandate EVs if you like, but it is not a cost effective way to reduce CO2
Malaria increasing? bring back DDT
Sea level rising? Stop pumping out the groundwater under your cities, stop draining the marshes around them, build seawalls.
Floods? stop building houses in floodplains you idiots
Forest fires? Vastly increased penalties for deliberate starts, reintroduce known techniques to reduce fuel load. Oh and stop building houses like mine set in fire prone forests.
Droughts? stop growing almonds in California, stop growing cotton and rice in Australia. Desal drinking water is slightly more expensive than riverine water, but taking a look at these
the high end is 6 bucks a tonne, so another 70c/ tonne isn't exactly the end of the world. Of course ag expects to pay far less than that for water (typically 20c/tonne in Oz but it varies), which seems to me as though it might be part of the problem. here's a map for California , an acre foot is roughly 1200 tonnes
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Greg Locock
New here? Try reading these, they might help FAQ731-376
So, forget batteries, switch to natural gas rather than coal, and ideally nuclear instead of natural gas. Mandate EVs if you like, but it is not a cost effective way to reduce CO2
Malaria increasing? bring back DDT
Sea level rising? Stop pumping out the groundwater under your cities, stop draining the marshes around them, build seawalls.
Floods? stop building houses in floodplains you idiots
Forest fires? Vastly increased penalties for deliberate starts, reintroduce known techniques to reduce fuel load. Oh and stop building houses like mine set in fire prone forests.
Droughts? stop growing almonds in California, stop growing cotton and rice in Australia. Desal drinking water is slightly more expensive than riverine water, but taking a look at these
the high end is 6 bucks a tonne, so another 70c/ tonne isn't exactly the end of the world. Of course ag expects to pay far less than that for water (typically 20c/tonne in Oz but it varies), which seems to me as though it might be part of the problem. here's a map for California , an acre foot is roughly 1200 tonnes
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Greg Locock
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TugboatEng
Marine/Ocean
So you're saying we should live our best life and damn the consequences because they are beyond our control?
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