Things are Starting to Heat Up - Part IX 10

[dik]

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[dik]

and the error, sir?

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[JoshPlumSE]

Only that in the "overall sense" it shouldn't be drought. In an overall sense, it will be more humidity, more rain.

If I said, that human caused climate change is expected to lead to colder temperatures. That would be an "erroneous" statement. Right?

 

[dik]

That's why I corrected my note to tug... It will likely be both, in the same locations (at different times), even. There could be significant, extreme, and erratic conditions. We just don't know. Different areas will be affected in different manners. Some places my remain, largely unchanged as far as weather goes.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

It will likely be both, in the same locations (at different times), even. There could be significant, extreme, and erratic conditions.

So what you're saying is we're all likely to experience changes in the weather. Good to know.

We just don't know.

Despite that, and everything else you'll admit that we don't know, you're still completely convinced about the course of action you think we should take?

 

[dik]

We have no idea of what the end result will be. There will likely be significant changes, many of them quite extreme. There can also be significant lifestyle changes. We don't know, but things are pointing to more extreme weather... droughts and storms, and the concern is that they could get a lot worse. Storms are becoming much worse, and faster, not more frequent. We will reach a point where we likely will not be able to correct the problem. The next couple of decades could get pretty interesting.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

Storms are becoming much worse, and faster.

They are? Where's your evidence? The contention that hurricanes have gotten worse, is based on assumptions and estimates of how many and how bad they were before we had satellites. It's the same with other types of storms. We don't know what kind of weather events occurred in places and times where there was no one there that reported or recorded that it happened.

We will reach a point where we likely will not be able to correct the problem.

We've never been able to "correct the problem" of changing climate, and we never will. We have to adapt, as we always have, very successfully, I might add.

The next couple of decades could get pretty interesting.

Of course they will be "interesting". Weather extremes and climate shifts will continue to happen; nothing new. Our modern technology allows us to track the changes much better than ever before, and climate alarmists keep every one of the changes right in front of us 24/7. However, more awareness of the weather extremes does not equate to more extreme weather events.

 

[dik]

For a start...

“Due to global warming, global climate models predict hurricanes will likely cause more intense rainfall and have an increased coastal flood risk due to higher storm surge caused by rising seas. Additionally, the global frequency of storms may decrease or remain unchanged, but hurricanes that form are more likely to become intense.”

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/3184/a-force-of-nature-hurricanes-in-a-changing-climate/

https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/09/1098662

https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/as...impacting-storms-over-earths-tropical-oceans/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...rsened-record-breaking-2020-hurricane-season/

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/05/8-climate-change-records-world-2021/

https://www.canada.ca/en/environmen...-canadas-top-ten-weather-stories-of-2021.html

https://unfccc.int/news/climate-change-leads-to-more-extreme-weather-but-early-warnings-save-lives

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[BridgeSmith]

“models predict...likely...may...more likely...”

I said evidence, not predictions and guesses.

 

[Tomfh]

It allows them to cry that the sky is falling when virtually ANYTHING happens. Big storm.... It's climate change. A lack of storms, also climate change. A very hot summer, climate change

Most people don’t question it. They get told it’s a cold winter due to climate change, and they buy it. The automatic regurgitating of talking points is really sad. I heard someone recite this one the other day in response to Sydney’s recent cold weather - “climate change is increasing temperature extremes both hot and cold”. They hear an “expert” say it, and they copy it.

None of this is to say the earth isn’t warming, but what it shows is the appalling level of confirmation bias occurring regarding climate change, where people are prepared to interpret cooling as further proof of overall warming. As you say, everything is climate change. Anything that happens is taken as more proof.

 

[dik]

No definitive proof... the evidence is in the increase and severity of current events and records being broken due to increased CO₂. CO₂ is increasing and the records are being broken. I cannot imagine 30C in Siberia. There is a good potential for more severe stuff to follow. You can just 'hunker down' and see what happens. With the current [lack of] activity, there is likely nothing to reduce what might happen.

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[JoshPlumSE]

I said evidence, not predictions and guesses.

Some of it is just common sense. If you accept that the climate is warming then you accept the following:
a) You will have less artic ice because some will melt due to higher temperatures. Which should lead to higher sea levels. Simple logic.
b) You will have more moisture in the air because water evaporates faster at higher temperatures. Also, because the air is capable of holding more water when it is warmer. Again, it's simple logic.
c) More humidity SHOULD lead to more hurricanes (or a longer hurricane season) which are largely caused by the Coriolis effect in combination with warm waters and humid conditions.
d) More humidity in general means more precipitation in general.

Now, none of these things mean that there are "catastrophic" effects from global warming. Just common sense predictions based on what happens when temperatures increase.

You might also add some beneficial effects of global warming:
e) You should have longer growing seasons due to warming weather and more precipitation.
f) Longer growing season + more available water = larger food supply from farming. Where we'd be less likely to experience mass starvation in places like Africa and such which have had food supply issues in the past.
g) On the flip side, you will likely have more malaria and such diseases that spread better in warmer climates.

 

[hokie66]

One man's good equals another man's bad. And ever it will be.

 

[dik]

You're assuming these changes are in moderation. Current weather events might indicate something else...

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

Well, do they or do they not?

 

[hokie66]

As usual, he has no idea.

 

[GregLocock]

Hang on dik, a few days ago you presented a paper that said both the intensity and frequency of cyclonic events in the USA were reducing. The reduced frequency is a trend that the Indian weather bureau found, and there's a similar chart for Australia.

Cheers

Greg Locock


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[dik]

They are changing all over... some less intense, some more intense. Some more frequent and some less frequent. It depends on where you live in the world (or USA).

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik

 

[TugboatEng]

That statement completely cancels itself out.

 

[Tomfh]

“Less intense” weather presumably counts as proof of global warming too, in the same way that cold does.

 

[dik]

The total summation is greater... but parts of it can be less, but other parts will be much warmer so the net result is an increase in temperature. It climate change... ie, it's changing, but with a net increase. People froze to death in Texas, and Siberia hit +30C... doesn't that seem at least a little odd?

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So strange to see the singularity approaching while the entire planet is rapidly turning into a hellscape. -John Coates

-Dik