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Tank hydrotest, will the water freeze? 2

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Mkotop

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Jan 19, 2012
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Good day to all!
First time poster with a problem.

We have a 557 m3 vertical cylindrical steel tank, D=9,3m, h_fill=8,2m tank wall is cca 50 mm.
It will be filled with water from the nearby river in 3 stages. In every stage 1/3 of the volume and left to settle for 48 hours. After it's full it will be drained 1/3 of the volume every 24 hours. The filling part for each stage is roughly 4 hours, emptying rate unknown.

Temp of the river is 3°C, expected outside temperatures are -5°C at night and 4°C during the day. Wind speed not given

Question is will the water freeze at any point without the addition of antifreeze?

water 3°C c=4,21 kJ/kgK
steel c=0,49 kJ/kgK; k=25 w/m2K
Air -5°C c=0,717 kJ7kgK
Tank wall surface 237 m2

Heat loss of a full tank Q=kAdT=25*237*8=47,4 kW

If I calculated ok, the heat contained in 3°C water is (m*cp*T)

at 1/3 of Vmax: 2,344,970.00 kJ
at 2/3: 4,689,940.00
at Vmax=7,034,910.00

I know that the water will not be 3°C when the 2. and 3. stage of fill begins but don't know how to approximate.

So, this is all I got. Where do I go from here with the calculaions? I am without the clue how to add the time dimension in all of this.
Thank you!



 
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. . . and only if designed by an MBA, eh what?!?!

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Put a small pump or mixer in it and keep the water moving --- probably will solve any problems...
 
Although heat loss will increase by agitation in an open head design. You may see ice rimming, but it should be minimal.

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Hi all,

what about the sun during daytime heating up the tank?
This might help in lowering the amount of ice formed.

BR
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