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Place the symbol, then go to Edit -> Annotation -> Origin...; select the surface finish symbol then the "offset character" icon (the one with the X Y dimensions), turn on the associative option and select the dimension to associate to, then press Apply. If the symbol isn't where you want it, reselect it, pick different alignment and/or scale factors and press Apply again. Repeat until the symbol is where you want it in relation to the dimension. Now when you drag the dimension around the surface finish symbol will follow.braddles90 said:I'd also love to know if I was doing anything wrong and you can make these symbols associative.