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BenjaminM

Chemical
Dec 12, 2006
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Hello all! I came across these boards a few weeks ago and have been well impressed by the combine talent and wisdom of everyone here.

First off I am an aspiring young engineer working in NW Georgia. I have been out of school for a little more than a year and a half now and loving it.

Well on too my problem. But first a brief description.

Our process contains methanol as a solvent. As such we do not want to contaminate our system with air (it is nitrogen blanketed) nor do we want to have emissions to the atmosphere.

We have several storage tanks and process vessels that are all connected to one common vent system that goes though a vent condensor to hopefully remove methanol vapors before they are expelled though a vent condensor.

We have managed to "suck in," really more of dent the top of a storage tank.

Though our system is blanketed, we do not have a blanket valve on every tank. This is something I plan on resolving.

What I am trying too examine is the vacuum / pressure that build up in the storage tanks as we pump out of one into another.

For simplistics sake, let me take the example of two 5000 gal storage tanks. We pump from tank A into tank B at some flow rate, just say 100 GPM. The headspace/displaced air/vapor from tank B flows though a 2" vent pipe back into tank A. Assume this is a closed system.

I am aware that I need too take into consideration pressure drops from flame arrestors, valves, lengths of pipeing aswell.

Is there any good standard, guide, rule of thumb for designing / evaluating such a system?

Are there any equations that anyone is aware off of the top of their head that could be used to model such a system?

Thankyou all!!

Benjamin
 
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Ben:

Good, well written query. Go to:


and in Post #58 you will find a downloadable Excel Workbook that will probably do a lot of what you are looking for - if not all.

You've done the right thing for a rookie; when in need of help, get resourceful and ask those that can most likely assist you. Good Luck!
 
Thankyou for the link Montemayor and for the quick responce. I appologize for not having a chance to reply sooner.

I actually had come across your spread sheet on Cheresource a couple days prior too my post here. At first glance I didnt believe it was what I was looking for. But going back though it in more detail, I believe it will be a very good starting point!

Thankyou again.

-Benjamin
 
MONTEMAYOR

I WENT TO YOUR SITE LISTED AND HAVE TROUBLE ATTEMPTING TO DOWNLOAD SPREADSHEET. I NOTICED OTHER COMMENTS ON SITE REGARDING PROBLEMS OF DOWNLOADING.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR PROCEDURE AS HOW TO OPEN THE FOLLOWING DESCRIPTION IN YOUR POST ON THE CHEROURCES SITE
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APPRECIATE THE HELP
THANKS
 

Stymied:

The Forum was recently revamped and updated with new features. One of those features erased or deleted all previous attached downloadable files.

I have re-inserted the file I previously posted and which you couldn't find. It is there now and subject to being downloaded.

Let me know if it doesn't work.
 
Montemayor

KUDOS to you for sharing a wealth of information
Great effort on your part

Thanks
 
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