jdgengineer
Structural
- Dec 1, 2011
- 767
When you have a relatively deep crawlspace below grade (say 42" tall, but not a true basement) how do you typically handle the retaining pressures on the stemwall? For basements in our area we typically design cantilevered retaining walls rather than rely on lateral support at the top of the wall. However, in this case I presume it would be preferred to rely on the lateral support at the top of the foundation wall.
Section R404.1.1 of the IRC states that an engineered design is only required where the unbalanced backfill exceeds 4' in height and the top and bottom of the foundation wall does not have lateral support. Therefore, do you just ignore the forces where the unbalanced height is less than 4'?
In a typical crawlspace, we do not have a slab on grade to resist the lateral thrust at the base of the footing. Sometimes, we do have a 2" thick rat slab. We would typically consider this non-structural but do others consider this lateral restraint? We could deepen or widen the footing at the base to resist sliding and/or overturning similar to a typical retaining wall but that could lead to pretty large foundations.
The elevation of our floor is often close to grade so the floor joist sometimes hang from the mudsill with top flange hangers and the floor sheathing is directly nailed to the mudsill. In these instances with perpendicular joists I think the restraint is probably there, but what do you often do with parallel conditions? Blocking by a couple of joist bays? Some geotechs require us to design soil as undrained with 80 pcf lateral pressure with an additional 8H to convert to at rest pressures. Presuming a 12" deep footing below crawlspace depth and designing the lateral pressure to the bottom of the footing (42" unbalanced backfill + 12" footing depth = 54" height), this could have a lateral reaction at the bottom of 620plf and at the top of 351plf. This seems like a high force to resolve into the floor framing and a high sliding force at the base of the footing.
How do you all handle these situations?
Section R404.1.1 of the IRC states that an engineered design is only required where the unbalanced backfill exceeds 4' in height and the top and bottom of the foundation wall does not have lateral support. Therefore, do you just ignore the forces where the unbalanced height is less than 4'?
In a typical crawlspace, we do not have a slab on grade to resist the lateral thrust at the base of the footing. Sometimes, we do have a 2" thick rat slab. We would typically consider this non-structural but do others consider this lateral restraint? We could deepen or widen the footing at the base to resist sliding and/or overturning similar to a typical retaining wall but that could lead to pretty large foundations.
The elevation of our floor is often close to grade so the floor joist sometimes hang from the mudsill with top flange hangers and the floor sheathing is directly nailed to the mudsill. In these instances with perpendicular joists I think the restraint is probably there, but what do you often do with parallel conditions? Blocking by a couple of joist bays? Some geotechs require us to design soil as undrained with 80 pcf lateral pressure with an additional 8H to convert to at rest pressures. Presuming a 12" deep footing below crawlspace depth and designing the lateral pressure to the bottom of the footing (42" unbalanced backfill + 12" footing depth = 54" height), this could have a lateral reaction at the bottom of 620plf and at the top of 351plf. This seems like a high force to resolve into the floor framing and a high sliding force at the base of the footing.
How do you all handle these situations?