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You'll probably have to contact GTAC for the official word on the subject. But you will probably get the same (or similar) answer as to what is found in thread561-376671.
I'm fairly sure that there have been enhancement requests (ER's) to get the functionality back. You should contact GTAC and add your name to the ER. The more customers request it, the higher priority it will be given for future updates.
www.nxjournaling.com
I'm fairly sure that there have been enhancement requests (ER's) to get the functionality back. You should contact GTAC and add your name to the ER. The more customers request it, the higher priority it will be given for future updates.
www.nxjournaling.com
JohnRBaker
Mechanical
It was determined by the Drafting Product Management group that replacing a Component was a Modeling and not a Drafting operation and therefore access to the function was removed from Drafting. If users wish to replace a Component of an Assembly, for which there is a Drawing, they should perform that operation in Modeling and then return to Drafting and update their Drawing(s).
While this may not be the outcome that people were looking for, it is a reasonable situation as the integrity of the original Assembly should be the responsibility of the designer and not the drafter, and while it might be true that in many organizations this could very well be the same person, it’s still only logical to confine operations which can affect the integrity, i.e. the design, of the Assembly to the module tasked with creating and editing Assemblies in the first place.
If you feel that having this function, being able to manipulate the content and structure of an Assembly while creating a Drawing of the Assembly, is critical to your workflow, then please contact GTAC and have them open an ER to that effect. That being said, I wouldn't hold my breath.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Digital Factory
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
While this may not be the outcome that people were looking for, it is a reasonable situation as the integrity of the original Assembly should be the responsibility of the designer and not the drafter, and while it might be true that in many organizations this could very well be the same person, it’s still only logical to confine operations which can affect the integrity, i.e. the design, of the Assembly to the module tasked with creating and editing Assemblies in the first place.
If you feel that having this function, being able to manipulate the content and structure of an Assembly while creating a Drawing of the Assembly, is critical to your workflow, then please contact GTAC and have them open an ER to that effect. That being said, I wouldn't hold my breath.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Digital Factory
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Thank you for the quick reply, but the issue becomes when the drawing does not have the component as part of the assembly (as mentioned in the other thread). Because I don't want to re-draft the views that are linked to the old file I found the only way to replace this component is to copy xyz.prt so I have the xyz.prt and the new 123.prt. Then since I still can’t just replace the drafting component I had to do the following:
1. add xyz.prt into the drawing.prt as a component
2. unpack assembly (if needed)
3. select this new component (not the drafting reference one)
4. do a replace component with 123.prt , check the replace all occurrences in assembly.
5. Delete the extra 123.prt file from the assembly (if needed).
6. Delete the obsolete xyz.prt file (in windows)
It appears that there is a functional need to replace a reference component within assembly or drafting. We do not typically document a part or assembly in a separate .prt file. But we have a case where we have a large assembly file that we are documenting it’s sub-assembly components, and after the drawing was completed the component names were changed, even though I was in the top of the assembly tree when I replaced the components in the sub-assembly the drafting reference component did not update. So the steps above was the only solution I could figure out to keep everything in the drawing linked up.
I'm glad the other thread had this option which worked! But for me it was after I have replaced them already...:
NX_ENABLE_REPLACE_FOR_DRAFTING_COMPONENTS=1
And John, I never hold my breathe when it comes to GTAC
NX 9.0.3.4
1. add xyz.prt into the drawing.prt as a component
2. unpack assembly (if needed)
3. select this new component (not the drafting reference one)
4. do a replace component with 123.prt , check the replace all occurrences in assembly.
5. Delete the extra 123.prt file from the assembly (if needed).
6. Delete the obsolete xyz.prt file (in windows)
It appears that there is a functional need to replace a reference component within assembly or drafting. We do not typically document a part or assembly in a separate .prt file. But we have a case where we have a large assembly file that we are documenting it’s sub-assembly components, and after the drawing was completed the component names were changed, even though I was in the top of the assembly tree when I replaced the components in the sub-assembly the drafting reference component did not update. So the steps above was the only solution I could figure out to keep everything in the drawing linked up.
I'm glad the other thread had this option which worked! But for me it was after I have replaced them already...:
NX_ENABLE_REPLACE_FOR_DRAFTING_COMPONENTS=1
And John, I never hold my breathe when it comes to GTAC
NX 9.0.3.4
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JohnRBaker
Mechanical
We understand the issue but think that what's needed is a mechanism that is NOT ‘advertised’ as just another flavor of ‘Replace Component’, like in Modeling, as the real solution. Call it something else and limit it to just these sorts of situations. That is what I would ask for in an ER, something specific to address the real issue and not just turning ON a purely modeling function while in Drafting.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Digital Factory
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Digital Factory
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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