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Projection Welding with HSLA Steel

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robo90124

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Apr 18, 2003
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I am working on an automotive application involving welding a 7/16" projection weld nut to 1.8mm High Strength Low Alloy Steel. (SP253-590) I am having a difficult time developing optimum weld parameters to maintain the specified push out requirement. Has anyone done a study on projection welding with HSLA steel or have any suggestions?
 
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What type of projection weld nut are you using? Hex with 3 projections? Other? The best standard that I have seen on this subject is DaimlerChrysler Process Standard PS-1804 WELD NUTS - PROJECTION WELDING. For the above mentioned weld nut, the following parameters apply:

Electrode force = 8900 N (2000 lbs)
Weld time = 16-20 cycles
Current = 23-25 K-amps

The required push-off force should be 18680 N (4200 lbs) and the Torque to failure should be 271 Nm (2400 in-lbs). Other parameters are given for different combinations of weld nut geometry and sheet metal thickness. You can obtain this standard from AutoWeb using the following link:

 
The 7/16" nut is square with (4) projections. The projection height is 1.3mm

Does the DC PS-1804 cover different metals Low Carbon, Galanized, Galvanealed, HSLA.....????
 
robo90124,

I recommend that you stop using the 4-projection square nut and replace it with a suitable 3-projection nut. With 4-projection nuts, often one projection is significantly out of plane. The variable weld cross-section causes welding problems which in turn causes low mechanical properties. An analogy is a table with 4 legs - three legs define a plane with the floor, and one of the legs is out of plane and requires a sugar packet to prevent table movement.
 
The DC standard acknowledges that different substrates (HSLA, galvanized, etc.) are used, but does not necessarily have different performance requirements or weld parameters.
 
Hi Robo
Is your material a "coated material" ie galvaneal, galvanized, hot dip ? as the thickness of coating can have a significant effect on weld integrity.
 
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