Pro/ENGINEER Piping Design

[darlington]

I am looking for an independent review of Pro/ENGINEER Piping Design.
Can anyone in this forum give me any information on it?
Does anyone know of a company that uses it?
All opinions greatly appreciated however small they may be.

 

[almagic]

What kind of information do you need? It seems to me, this module is rather simple, fast learning (it had taken me about 2 weeks without anybody's helping). We're small HVAC/R company. We chose piping between SW and Pro/E - SW is simplier to learn and use, but Pro/E is more potential & powerfull..
If you need, I can send you screenshot ))

 

[darlington]

Do you have ANSI B16.5 pipe flanges?
How much did the package cost to you?
What other standard parts are included? valves, instrumentation, guages, pumps etc
I would need the package for Oil & Gas installations do you think that it is suitable?
What major advantages does it have over using 2D drafting? i.e. in autocad. (I know there are some obvious reasons, but can you please give me some 'ammunition' to get my company to buy it!!) I use pro/e to design our company's products but alas piping layouts are still done with autocad 2d.
What problems have you encountered.
Screenshot would be appreciated thanks. please send to :
danny.callaghan@kvaerner.com

 

[almagic]

First of all, we're located in Russia => we have to work with GOST (russian state standard), but you can make family table with necessary B16.5 flanges and insert it as "fittings". This package costs for us about 10 k$ for 1 workplace (only Pro/Piping!!!). All equipment (valves, compressors, pumps etc.) were made ourselves - they did not included in package. About ACAD.... hmmm.. - we'd canceled work with this programm as soon as we knew all advantages of Pro/E. Main advantage is your CONSTRUCTING (NOT DRAWING, painting, waiting for redrawing and regenerating etc!!!) Pro/E is designed to work with solids but not with simple lines(as you know). Problems... they always have place to be ))) - but these problems are NOT SO LARGE as ACAD..
I've sent you a jpg-file - This construction have taken me about 1.5 week - and it'll take me about 1 week to make documentation for welding, soldering and mounting - not so much (sorry for my english)

 

[darlington]

If i have to create the flanges and all other items that are 'piped up' (even when they are standard items i.e. ansi flanges, fittings, standard valves etc.) what is the advantage of using pro/piping over doing the models / assemblies in standard pro/e.
What happens with elbows/tees and reducers. Oil and Gas installations use ANSI B36-10 How are these represented / selected ?
Are any standard parts included at all?
(English ok - i understand)