Photoworks problem

[Mitsu50]

Hi all,

I've hit a bump in 2008 where when i use a custom made material with a satin finish, and i select accurate reflections. some options that are in 2007 are no longer available. Specifically the ability to adjust difuse brightness and specularity. My material now is way to dark, and i cant brighten it up. If i adjust difuse and environment, all my other parts look bad. Is this a bug? or am i missing something. thanks in advance.

Tony

 

[Simon205]

Have you tried increasing it's ambient brightness?

 

[Mitsu50]

there is no option for increasing brightness at all for a satin based material anymore. weird....

 

[Eltron]

Is this for your renders or just the Realview preview?

Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

 

[Mitsu50]

havent looked at it with RV so just the renders. I'll look at RV now

 

[Eltron]

The reason that I ask is because there is some disconnect between the two parts of the program. Check:

http://forum.solidworks.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=19&threadid=7916

for some more info.

Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

 

[Mitsu50]

when i turn on rv the material with the problem looks like it does with no rv, flat and basic, weird. when i go back to 2007 it renders fine like on my previous assemblies.

 

[Theophilus]

Seemed like 2006 let me do the most with custom material properties for tuning things in. I'll be very interested to see if we have more lost functionality with materials in 2008. If so, might need to move away from PhotoWorks--which I hate to do, since the engine behind the interface is so strong.

Here's hoping for some good news.



Jeff Mowry

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[Mitsu50]

here is a screen grab of the problem. see the all black parts. they should be like a yellow cadnium finish. everything else in the scene is reflecting properly. Any thoughts? Alos this is the satin based material. if i make it regular conductor or something else it works ok.

https://home.comcast.net/~anthony.vitale/problem.bmp

 

[Theophilus]

Yeah, it's like you need to turn up the illumination settings--and those no longer exist, right? That certainly doesn't look like cadmium plating--probably closer to black anodizing.



Jeff Mowry

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What did you dream? It's all right--we told you what to dream.
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[Mitsu50]

exactly. its almost like maybe i had reflections turned off but no the case.

I actually fixed the problem. Apparently there is a problem with the old material being 2007??? I took a 2008 satin based material and just changed some settings like color, to match my old material, and all seems to be well. Not sure why i didnt think of that b4...

 

[Eltron]

After seeing your screen shot, it looks similar to a problem that I had with trying to use '07 materials, (as you mentioned) specifically acrylic in my case. I did the same fix as you, and haven't run into the problem again.

Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

 

[Theophilus]

Does this mean that 2007 "legacy" materials suddenly render differently in 2008?



Jeff Mowry

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What did you dream? It's all right--we told you what to dream.
--Pink Floyd, Welcome to the Machine

 

[Mitsu50]

havent tried any of the actual legacy materials. But in classic SW fashion i tried to save and it crashed... now i've fixed my material again, but at some point b4 saving I changed some environment settings, and my renders look like crap....It never ends. Now to try and get back to where i was

 

[Eltron]

I've only found the issue with some materials that are attached to '07 files. Some are fine.

Dan

http://www.eltronresearch.com

 

[MMike1]

You could change the design requirements of the part from cad plate to black anodize. Problem solved! (It's amazing I don't get beaten up more often)

 

[Mitsu50]

swell idea. i was thinking just make the whole assembly out of default plastic. DONE!!!
here is what the finished render looks like if anyone would like to see.

https://home.comcast.net/~anthony.vitale/assy.tif

 

[rockguy]

I think it looks pretty good. The material in the butterfly area need to be remapped so it goes around the cylinder and I'd change the environment image to adjust the coloring a bit but all in all it's pretty good. I'd have also used a satin metal shader (with accurate reflections checked) for the steel pieces rather than polished steel.

My thoughts anyway.

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[Mitsu50]

i thought i used that for the steel, but i'll re-check. Thanks for the input!

 

[Theophilus]

Looking great! The cadmium coating still looks a bit dim, but it may just need a tad more ambient light to "turn up" the scene a bit. I really like how the light plays on the materials.



Jeff Mowry

http://www.industrialdesignhaus.com

What did you dream? It's all right--we told you what to dream.
--Pink Floyd, Welcome to the Machine