Ordinate Dim Problem After View Rotation 3

[MattP]

I have come across a little detailing problem and I am wondering if there is a work around. Solidworks 2005 SP5.0 by the way.

I insert a front view of a part, don't like the orientation so I rotate it 180 degrees. Then I try to add vertical and horizontal ordinate dimensions and I get unexpected results. Now it would let me add the dims before I rotated the view but why not now? Anyone else run into this? Is there a fix?

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[Regg]

How did you rotate the part?

 

[MattP]

RMB view, "Zoom/Pan/Rotate", "Rotate View", enter 180 degrees.

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[CorBlimeyLimey]

Also using SW05, I can place ordinate dimensions but the Horiz & Vertical ordinates appear to have been confused by the 180deg rotation. Horiz works vertically & Vertical works horizonatly.

Definitely looks like a bug.


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[Regg]

That is what I thought you were going to say. We do not rotate views like that since SW2000 or SW2001+. There were problems but I do not remember what they were. Since you had problems, they appear to still be there (Also as CBL observed that the view may not rotate as you expect it to), I would change the view by changing the view in the orientation box.

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Regg

 

[brengine]

I too try not to rotate views because of issues like this. When you do for sure want a rotated view, the following will allow it to be dimensioned properly.

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[li]Delete all the parent/child related views except the one you want to be the parent view in the final version of this drawing, I'll call it View 1. (If you're wondering...yes you'll loose any existing dimensions in all of these views, and have to re-do those dimensions.)[/li]
[li]Rotate View 1 the desired amount.[/li]
[li]Make a projected view from View 1 in any direction. I'll call this View 2.[/li]
[li]Delete View 1.[/li]
[li]Now from View 2, project a view from it back in the direction where View 1 was. I'll call this View 3.[/li]
[li]Now delete View 2.[/li]
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What you're left with is one view, View 3, that is rotated at the orientation you need, that you can correctly ordinate dimension as well as create more projected views off of it and have those views correctly dimension as well.

Not what anyone wants to do all this just to get a view to dimension proerly, but it was worked every time for me since SW2003 (thru SW2006).

Ken

 

[Regg]

Ken,

That seems like a lot of work. Why not just create the view you want in the model and then insert it into a drawing? I am not criticizing, I am trying to understand what you are trying to accomplish that cannot be done with the method I use.

Regards,

Regg

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

I had not experienced this prolem before SW05.

The simplest workaround is per Reggs post ... create a rotated view of the model in the orientation box & call that view up in the drawing. The ordinate dimensions then work as they should.


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[MattP]

Ken's method works well and is a lot more simple than his long description would have you believe. Only took about 30 seconds the first time.

Thanks, everyone. I knew there had to be some work arounds for this bug.

Matt

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[Regg]

To whom ever gave me the star thanks.

MattP,

What ever you are more comfortable doing is what you should do. With my method though, you may not have to delete any views. I am not sure I would call it a bug until you talk to SolidWorks. The functionality may be exactly as SW intended. In that case you need to submit an enhancement request.

Regards,

Regg

 

[SnowCrash]

Is not bug, is feature. Oof. I also get this messed up in sketches. My approach is to always start a drawing with a "FRONT" view. Go back to the model and make the front view what you want it to be, then you don't need to rotate any views.
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[brengine]

Regg,

As for why I do it this (long) way, it's just on of those things that you get used to doing one way and can't seem to break the habit. It's second nature now and I can probably do that faster than flipping back to the model, reorientating myself, then reorientating the model, flipping back to the drawing, and then inserting the Current View. My main complaint about the method I use is that I don't have a Named View as my parent View. I try to always insert Named Views for the parent views (easier to work with later when you change your mind and ???), and neither my method or your's will get accomplish this.

As for renaming my Front (or whichever) view in the View Orientations box, I just don't like to do that. I like to know that the Front View is parallel with with the Front Plane, etc. Also I think this could be confusing for other Users trying to work with my model.

After reading all the responses, I feel that CBL's is the best method (a Star for him) and will start (if I remember) to do them that way, i.e.

create a rotated view of the model in the orientation box & call that view up in the drawing

That way I can get my parent view as a Named View and the ordinate dimensions will work correctly.

There's always a different path to sovle the same problem,
Ken

 

[Regg]

Ken,

That is exactly how I do it. I like my first view to be a named view too. That is what I meant when I said create a view. Sorry I was not more clear.

Regards,

Regg