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Latest IPCC Climate Change Report 14

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The final statement of the Summary for Policymakers is all you really need:
IPCC said:
The cumulative scientific evidence is unequivocal: Climate change is a threat to human well-being
and planetary health. Any further delay in concerted anticipatory global action on adaptation and mitigation
will miss a brief and rapidly closing window of opportunity to secure a liveable and sustainable future for all.
(very high confidence)
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It'll be interesting if current events, highlighting how susceptible fossil fuel supplies are, really does speed up the transition away from them.

Sadly I fear we'll continue to see more of the same. Incremental improvements/changes, more hemming and hawing about costs/timelines, and more disinformation about "big climate research", all while the CO2/methane levels continue to climb and the system continues to spiral.
 
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Agree... but no one seems to be interested in doing anything, other than holding conferences. You almost get the impression that it is nothing to worry about... or point fingers at who is the cause of it all.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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Even on this site there's no shortage of people claiming that the millions spent on research are somehow proof of a conspiracy, despite the billions in profits the fossil fuel/energy companies are protecting by spreading that nonsense.

We're all just along for the ride as the worlds leaders effectively "roll the dice" and see where we end up after they're dead or their terms have expired. It's unconscionable.
 
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IPCC actually has a bunch of different reports, the most recent is Climate Change 2022 Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability

Dik's link is to the most recent release of the modeling and physics one Climate Change 2021: The Physical Science Basis

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Thanks, IRS... wow 3600+ pages... will have to wait until the weekend...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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They treated Covid the same way and the US has nearly 1,000,000 fatalities...[pipe]

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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It doesn't paint a pretty picture.

Any big "thing" has disinformation attached to it. Any "event" will bring out fringe people. Why is this such a hard concept for people to grasp? The lies that certain groups or individuals on "your side" have pushed over the years doesn't help quell it, even if they were later corrected or retracted.

The big problem is what exactly should be done? We should all know that the world can't simply eliminate fossil fuels in a 5-10 year range rate without destroying the whole world economy and upending most peoples lives. That doesn't mean we should just not do anything and cross our fingers, I'm just saying it's a massive problem to actually do.

I also see issues with other pollution that really needs to be addressed and is mostly being ignored. Even if we get carbon under control there's a lot of other pollution that is destroying the planet.

Covid is completely off topic, but we treated Covid special here and the numbers are indicating excessive 0-14yo deaths compared to other age groups, which wasn't the desired result. But, there is no point trying to use Covid for any kind of argument until the results of various approaches have been studied enough to understand all the various causes and effects.
 
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It mainly shows a really big failure of the education system. It's not in a politician's best interests to have an educated population. Problem starts at the top.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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The response seems to be the same... life is cheap in the fast lane...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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RVAmeche said:
It'll be interesting if current events, highlighting how susceptible fossil fuel supplies are, really does speed up the transition away from them.
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Yes, it will be interesting. While fuel prices being very volatile is nothing new, I think this time it might have more of an effect.... Or, at least I'm hoping that it will. I'm hoping to see the following (some of which will reduce fossil fuel consumption, some of which won't).
a) Continued movement towards more fuel efficiency. Maybe even the legislation of such changes here in the US. I'm not talking about full electric vehicles or anything quite so extreme. But, a push to fuel efficiency (i.e. small engines, hybrids, or such), both by the consumer and the regulators / legislatures.

b) Some effort to boycott or add tariffs to "unfriendly" countries that are either totalitarian, sponsors of terror or such. This doesn't reduce demand much except that it will have an effect on price which results in some reduction of demand.

c) A move toward "energy independence" for the US. Essentially, preferring our own energy production (or Canada's and Mexico's) to those that come from further away. Maybe even an resumption of the keystone pipeline.

d) I'm not foolish enough to think that we (the US) will move towards Nuclear power (which it should). But, hopefully the politics of nuclear will start being a little less toxic.
 
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It's a lot more than that Josh... there will likely have to be a re-think on how energy is used... with some serious changes in the way we live.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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a) High gas prices would certainly have that effect; the Arab oil embargo helped Japanese small cars to become popular, and put the fear of extinction into the Big3

c) The only issue is that it's likely cheaper to import cheap oil and export our more expensive native oil

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If you look at the per capita carbon footprint for countries over 100,000,000 population the offenders may not be totalitarian or terrorists. You might be surprised who #1 is, with #2 at half the carbon footprint.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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I dunno, the cost of fuel is such a small part of TCO of a new car I think high fuel prices don't really have much effect on new car decisions. Practically, I'm driving around in a 2200 kg 4wd, that gets about 25mpg in practice. I could switch to a Prius and halve the fuel bill, and save $30 a week (less in the USA). I'm sure that would not make up for the lack of space and towing. i tow my camper trailer for 4000 km every year, and my utility trailer for at least 500 km a year.

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My old Z28(454 LS6, engine) used to get 8mpg in the city and 12 on the highway... big change.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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Unfortunately governments are not working like they should, else there would be a much more serious approach to carbon footprints. Oligarchies rule the day...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
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the cost of fuel is such a small part of TCO of a new car I think high fuel prices don't really have much effect on new car decisions.
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From a totality perspective, possibly. Anyone in this forum probably has too much disposable income to worry about it, but when you're at half or a third of what we make, $75 to fill your tank is going to make you wince.

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