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Intermittent Assembly mate errors

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ShaggyPE

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Sep 8, 2003
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Has anybody experienced this the way I have. Using SW 2003 and 2004. I have had a few assemblies display errors in the mates when there should'nt be an error. I will do a cntrl-Q and the errors sometimes go away. Or I will suppress and unsuppress one of the mates and the error will go away. Occasionally I have a component in an assembly that is fully mated for get that it is mated and get a minus sign in the feature manager. I attempt to drag the part, it doesn't move but also doesn't inform me that the part is fully mated. After I attempt to drag the part, the rebuild icon displays next to the part in the feature tree. When I rebuild, the part is once again fully locked down. Anybody experience anything like this?
 
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I recently had a similar experience. I had a component thatwas constrained differently in different configurations. Even though it was not overconstrained due to one set of constraints being suppressed, I got an error. The error spontaneously resolved two days later.

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For some reason this is happened to me too. Sometimes by reversing (or flipping) the mate orientation fixes it. Maybe SW doesn't remember which way was up sometimes.

I've had the same type of configuration problems Thetick mentioned. I've just steered away from having any conflicting mates when everything in the assy is resolved. That way the mates would never interfere with one another.
 
Sometimes it can be hard for SW to solve some mates, resulting on how you build your model. In those cases, SW as the need to solve partialy the model to find the data needed to solve the rest of the model. You will need to press cntrl-Q more than once. A don't know more details about this behaviour and how to avoid it.

In one or two more complex assemblies I've found that the only way to update correctly (at least I didn't have found another way) was to close the files and open them again!

Regards
 
This thread is over a year old, and there have been multiple new major releases of SW since, but I'm seeing the exact same behavior with an assembly - parts I know are fully mated show up with a (-) in the tree. I can get the component in question to show up as fully mated by suppressing some other components, but as soon as the assembly is fully resolved, I see the same issues. Multiple CTRL-Q's don't do anything.

I'm on SW2005, SP2.0 which I know isn't the latest. I'm skeptical that a SP will solve my problem due to the fact that this was a problem in SW2003 and SW2004. Any other suggestions to help solve this assembly? The fact that some of the components "appear" to be free to move isn't causing me any headaches at the moment, but Murphy tells me I should be prepared. Or is that the Boy Scouts?

Thanks,
Dave Gowans
 
dgowans,

I got an SPR for the (-) showing up on fully defined subassemblies. I can't tell you if it got fixed in 2006 or not. I also have the problem that an angle mate will switch back and forth every time I open an assembly. Click on the mate alignment to flip it back and the assembly is fine. Open the file again and it may or may not be flipped the wrong way. I have only had this in SW2005, SP 0 thru SP3.0 so far.

mncad
 
mncad,

Could you post the SPR # so I can check it online?

Thanks,
Dave Gowans
 
I just checked and it is still open, #270573. The description says that the part was fully defined in 2004 and underdefined in 2005, but the part wouldn't move, just the (-) showed up in 2005.

mncad
 
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