I just recently changed companies and at my old firm I sealed each individual structural drawing, but here they prefer to just have each discipline put their seal on the cover sheet and put next to the seal which sheets that individual is responsible for. Without delving into the Illinoi by-laws (who has time for that), is this an acceptable in our practice? Thank you for the help.
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IL SE Seal ?
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woodman88
Structural
- Oct 23, 2009
- 1,020
Not per the Illinois General Assembly web site at Which gives this
"(225 ILCS 325/15) (from Ch. 111, par. 5215)
(Section scheduled to be repealed on January 1, 2020)
Sec. 15. Technical submissions. All technical submissions prepared by or under the personal supervision of a professional engineer shall bear that professional engineer's seal, signature, and license expiration date. The licensee's written signature and date of signing, along with the date of license expiration, shall be placed adjacent to the seal. Computer generated signatures are not permitted.
The professional engineer who has contract responsibility shall seal a cover sheet of the technical submissions, and those individual portions of the technical submissions for which the professional engineer is legally and professionally responsible. The professional engineer practicing as the support design professional shall seal those individual portions of technical submissions for which the professional engineer is legally and professionally responsible.
All technical submissions intended for use in construction in the State of Illinois shall be prepared and administered in accordance with standards of reasonable professional skill and diligence. Care shall be taken to reflect the requirements of State statutes and, where applicable, county and municipal ordinances in such documents. In recognition that professional engineers are licensed for the protection of the public health, safety and welfare, documents shall be of such quality and scope, and be so administered as to conform to professional standards.
(Source: P.A. 91-92, eff. 1-1-00; 92-145, eff. 1-1-02.) "
Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.
"(225 ILCS 325/15) (from Ch. 111, par. 5215)
(Section scheduled to be repealed on January 1, 2020)
Sec. 15. Technical submissions. All technical submissions prepared by or under the personal supervision of a professional engineer shall bear that professional engineer's seal, signature, and license expiration date. The licensee's written signature and date of signing, along with the date of license expiration, shall be placed adjacent to the seal. Computer generated signatures are not permitted.
The professional engineer who has contract responsibility shall seal a cover sheet of the technical submissions, and those individual portions of the technical submissions for which the professional engineer is legally and professionally responsible. The professional engineer practicing as the support design professional shall seal those individual portions of technical submissions for which the professional engineer is legally and professionally responsible.
All technical submissions intended for use in construction in the State of Illinois shall be prepared and administered in accordance with standards of reasonable professional skill and diligence. Care shall be taken to reflect the requirements of State statutes and, where applicable, county and municipal ordinances in such documents. In recognition that professional engineers are licensed for the protection of the public health, safety and welfare, documents shall be of such quality and scope, and be so administered as to conform to professional standards.
(Source: P.A. 91-92, eff. 1-1-00; 92-145, eff. 1-1-02.) "
Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.
woodman88
Structural
- Oct 23, 2009
- 1,020
But then on page 8 of the Design Code Manual (a free download at it states.
"5. The licensee shall affix the signature, current date, date of license expiration and seal to the first sheet of any bound set or loose sheets prepared by the licensee or under that licensee’s immediate supervision."
I wonder if the writers of the Manual ever read the Engineering Act for Illinois.
Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.
"5. The licensee shall affix the signature, current date, date of license expiration and seal to the first sheet of any bound set or loose sheets prepared by the licensee or under that licensee’s immediate supervision."
I wonder if the writers of the Manual ever read the Engineering Act for Illinois.
Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.
woodman88
Structural
- Oct 23, 2009
- 1,020
Sorry the above are for PE's not SE's per this website in which Sec 12 states
"...The licensed structural engineer shall affix the signature, current date, date of license expiration and seal to the first sheet of any bound set or loose sheets prepared by the licensed structural engineer or under that licensed structural engineer's immediate supervision.
(Source: P.A. 91-91, eff. 1-1-00.) "
Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.
"...The licensed structural engineer shall affix the signature, current date, date of license expiration and seal to the first sheet of any bound set or loose sheets prepared by the licensed structural engineer or under that licensed structural engineer's immediate supervision.
(Source: P.A. 91-91, eff. 1-1-00.) "
Garth Dreger PE - AZ Phoenix area
As EOR's we should take the responsibility to design our structures to support the components we allow in our design per that industry standards.
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