Fluid Dynamics of Meat

[Tmoore]

Does anyone know any good sources for understanding the physical properties of meats that are being pumped through pipes? As well, does anyone know of any material that can be used to simulate different types of meat for testing purposes?
Thanks all!
Tom

 

[Scipio]

Can't help you, but I the thought of meat being pumped through a pipe just converted me into a vegetarian!

 

[phex]

i don't really want to post this question, but which application needs to pump meat through pipes?

will the different kinds of meat make such a difference?

"hey, chicken goes much more smooth in here..."

meat isn't really expensive, so if you need to perform tests, why not with different kinds of meat instead of a supplement, which will be more expensive, i'm sure.

as to where to find physical properties, i'd try with some meat packing plant, perhaps they will guide you to appropriate ressources

chris

 

[saxon]

Scipio &phex, Your comments remind me of old saying I once heard in a meat packing plant in Chicago. Sausage and hotdogs are good to eat, but you never want to see them being made!

Tmoore, Check with Armour or Oscar Meyer, they have being doing it for at least a hundered years.

saxon

 

[TheBlacksmith]

And I thought we were onto a way to eliminate a trip to the store. Just have a "meat" pipe hooked up alongside the gas pipe to my grill, press the button for a sirloin or some nice chops.... Sounds like sausage making etc. and the guys listed above should be experts by now.

Blacksmith

 

[BobPE]

i really never thought of my burger being a non-newtonian fluid.....hmmmmmmm

BobPE

 

[longeron]

Actually that reminds me of what the guys who make jet engines do. Bird strikes are a serious hazard to low flying aircraft, so GE and Honeywell, Pratt and Whitney and all the others shoot frozen chickens at thier running engines. I've heard that they do have computer models of the chicken flowing through the engine and that they model it as a fluid not as a solid.

You may want to put a post on an aircraft related forum.

Yummy.

Josh

 

[automatic2]

longeron, your correct about the analysis of flowthrough for our avian friends. Aside from contact deflection, the remaining independant particles flow through as a gas/fluid.

phex, you've tickled my spine with proposing meat as an appropriate test media.

 

[phex]

ah well, should have elaborated that a little...

i was talking of meat, which is too old to be sold (though not neccessarily rotten). the stuff they normaly dispose. that should a) be quite cheap and b) has more sense than just throwing it away.

 

[saxon]

phex, In the meat packing industry everything gets used except the "squeal". That's why hot dogs and the like were invented.

In the days before Sinclair Lewis and "The Jungle" and USDA even the rotten stuff got used.

Appetizing EH!

saxon

 

[phex]

this thread is not really nice. it's, believe it or not, the first thing EVER bringing me to also think about conversion to vegetarianism...

 

[Tmoore]

Thanks for all the responses, I guess no one here is in the industry. Do any of you chem engineers know what the effect of meat protein is on stainless steel metals?

 

[CARF]

Tmoore,

What propeties, what meat?

Sent me a mail and I'll see what I can do.

xmarki@yahoo.commm

 

[ornerynorsk]

Hey Tmoore! No vegetarian here! Must be the Berserker heritage, but I just called the wife to throw some brats on the grill for tonight LOL. Seriously, a maintenance shop I once worked in did a lot of sharpening for grinding plates and the like. I know from experience that most meat is "pumped" as a result of the inflow being augered through the grinding plates. IE, the incoming meat just keeps pushing the outflow. very similar to hydraulic applications, only the "fluid" is ground meat. Hope that helps.

 

[25362]

I assume comminution is followed by fluidization for pipe transport. Am I right?

 

[flakeyfoont]

I assume you are wanting to pump a meat slurry (raw then through a prebreaker, then fluidized with hot fat) to be pumped from the fluidizer to an evaporator for dewatering. If this is the case please elaborate on what properties you require, I may be able to help you.