Continue to Site

Eng-Tips is the largest engineering community on the Internet

Intelligent Work Forums for Engineering Professionals

Register Log in
  • Congratulations waross on being selected by the Eng-Tips community for having the most helpful posts in the forums last week. Way to Go!

Flint Municipal Water - Part 2 4

Status
Not open for further replies.
They got off way too easy and no heads rolled...

Dik
 
Agree, the former governor should go to prison for this fiasco. When politicians are not held accountable, it enables other politicians in the future.
 
They should start with the governor and just keep on going down until they hit pipe.

“What I told you was true ... from a certain point of view.” - Obi-Wan Kenobi, "Return of the Jedi"
 
Here's an item with a bit more detail, including a copy of the proposed agreement itself:

Details on $600M preliminary settlement for Flint Water Crisis lawsuits


John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
 
"Former Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, his health director and other ex-officials have been told they're being charged after a new investigation of the Flint water scandal, which devastated the majority Black city with lead-contaminated water and was blamed for a deadly outbreak of Legionnaires' disease in 2014-15, the Associated Press has learned. Two people with knowledge of the planned prosecution told the AP on Tuesday that the attorney general's office has informed defense lawyers about indictments in Flint and told them to expect initial court appearances soon," the AP reported Tuesday.

"The AP could not determine the nature of the charges against Snyder, former health department director Nick Lyon and others who were in the Snyder administration," the AP explained. "Courtney Covington Watkins, a spokeswoman for the attorney general's office, said only that investigators were 'working diligently' and 'will share more as soon as we're in a position to do so.'"
 
Have any engineers been charged or even named as having been involved in this disaster?
 
I'm not sure if they were degreed or licensed engineers, but if I recall correctly, at least one of the operating 'engineers' was charged with something.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
 
If they charge him, the entire operation should be taken out of the hands of the government court. A private lawyer should be looking after the Grand Jury, etc... right up to the point he shows up in court. I have little confidence in the DOJ looking after politicians.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
That's not the way it works, dik. Prosecution is done by governments. In this case, the Michigan Attorney General is in charge. I don't think the DOJ has a role.
 
The US Attorney General is the Head of the US DOJ. Following that federal model, the Michigan Attorney General's office would be the head of a Mighigan DOJ, if there was Michigan DOJ, as in California, but Michigan and many other states do not have a state DOJ. There is however a Michigan Department of Attorney General which carries out Michigan's justice functions. Really just different names on the org chart. The US DOJ does not appear to have a role in the Flint story, as the case is under Michigan's sole jurisdiction.

 
hokie... I'm aware of that... but governments don't do so well at that. The charges and that should be presented by a disinterested person... and lawyers are generally considered as members of the court. The courts have shown numerous times that they are unable to do this properly, including charging police officers with murder 1...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik
 
Where is this going?

 
At the time of the Flint water crisis there was an outbreak of Legionaries disease in the city. There was a lot of speculation that these issues were somehow linked but there was very little historical scientific evidence to supported that claim, however it has always been something that has haunted the people involved. Well, the culprit has finally been revealed and it's becoming clear that it was NOT related to the changes made to the city's water supply, although the water problems may have exacerbated the issue, which is still being investigated, but it certainly interfered with the responses to the issue by public officials.

Anyway, the source of the Legionaries disease, which has now been confirmed to have been going on for years before the water crisis, appears to have been the local hospital:

CDC letter: McLaren Flint Hospital has spread Legionnaires’ disease for 10+ years


John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
 
I have little confidence in the DOJ looking after politicians.
Click to expand...

In case you haven’t noticed, the upper levels of federal and state justice depts ARE politicians. MI AG is an elected position just like many others, not one you need to be qualified for or even competent at.
 
Former Michigan Governor Rick Snyder was charged on Wednesday with two counts of willful neglect of duty in the Flint water crisis, the Associated Press reported.
 
No qualifications or competence required is the problem with all elected and appointed offices. The ultimate results of which are limited by the competence of the people doing the electing or the person doing the appointing.

 
The current Michigan Attorney General is a lawyer. How qualified, I don't know.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

ProSafPlant1
  • Locked
  • Question
Calgary 2 m diameter water feeder main break
Replies
3
Views
350
coloeng
coloeng
RVAmeche
  • Locked
  • Question
Richmond VA Boil Water Advisory
Replies
12
Views
7K
RVAmeche
RVAmeche
spsalso
  • Locked
  • Question
SF Tower settlement Part IV
Replies
0
Views
1K
spsalso
spsalso
thebard3
  • Locked
  • Question
Plant explosion in Louisville kills 2
Replies
1
Views
2K
drwebb
drwebb
Sym P. le
  • Locked
  • Question
Apartment Building Collapse - Part 2
Replies
6
Views
576
KRZ.13
KRZ.13

Part and Inventory Search

Sponsor

Back
Top Bottom