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FIRE and explosion at lithium batteries facility in Grand-Couronne, France -- Jan 16, 2023
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EdStainless
Materials
Logistics facility, who knows what else was stored there.
This fire may have started with nothing to do with batteries or tires.
But it sure involves them now.
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This fire may have started with nothing to do with batteries or tires.
But it sure involves them now.
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P.E. Metallurgy, consulting work welcomed
I recall the fire at Hagersville in Ontario a while back... in addition to unhealthy fumes, there was chemical contamination of the groundwater, too.
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70,000 tires, is a bunch of tires for fire fighting... they had a 'mountain' of them at Hagersville and it was a difficult fire to knock down.
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Alistair_Heaton
Mechanical
From what I can find out its now out and they are doing the chemical survey to see how much they have to clean up.
thousands of Li-ion battery's isn;t that much to be honest.
A 18V 5 Ah makita battery pack has 15 of them in it So call it 700 units for 10 000 cells. So a 850kg pallet load.
thousands of Li-ion battery's isn;t that much to be honest.
A 18V 5 Ah makita battery pack has 15 of them in it So call it 700 units for 10 000 cells. So a 850kg pallet load.
Not much left of the warehouse.
Alistair_Heaton
Mechanical
these logistic warehouses there is not much to begin with. They don't put any sort of fire protection on the metal work. And the metal will be French steel.
They will likely just scrap the whole lot and rebuild using the same bolts into the floating foundation. The investigation will take longer than the rebuild if they go for it.
Last one I saw constructed was in middle of December when we went to the beach. I had seen them doing the foundations pre cold in October. Dec 10th they were delivering the metal work. 2 weeks later The roof was on and they seemed to be doing the building services.
And last week we went past and there was an artic backing into it.
So 3-4 weeks in -10 and snow to completion.
They will likely just scrap the whole lot and rebuild using the same bolts into the floating foundation. The investigation will take longer than the rebuild if they go for it.
Last one I saw constructed was in middle of December when we went to the beach. I had seen them doing the foundations pre cold in October. Dec 10th they were delivering the metal work. 2 weeks later The roof was on and they seemed to be doing the building services.
And last week we went past and there was an artic backing into it.
So 3-4 weeks in -10 and snow to completion.
JohnRBaker
Mechanical
Speaking of constructing buildings in the winter months, my alma mater, up in the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan, is currently erecting a new classroom building which will be primarily used for medical-related research and classes, what they're temporarily calling the H-STEM Complex (I'm sure that they'll eventually find an alumni with deep pockets to which they can 'sell' naming rights ;-)
Anyway, they managed to get all of the steel work up before any serious winter weather hit and they've now enclosed it in a temporary 'shell' of plastic, sort of like how they 'tent' a house when fumigating for termites. They're going to continue to work on the inside through the winter months (note that they don't expect to occupy the building before the fall semester of 2024).
Anyway, here's what that building looks like as of this morning (and yes, that's fresh snow on the ground):
Interesting side note, our granddaughter #4, and her parents, are just now leaving Houston on a flight which will eventually get them to Houghton, Michigan about 6:00pm this evening. This is the trip where she's going to be interviewed for that four-year, full-tuition scholarship. She has several meetings tomorrow and then they're going to be spending Friday night with my brother and his wife, who live about 35 miles away. They fly home Saturday night. I hope that she's no put-off by the weather. She's only been up there each of the last two summers for week long STEM workshops. This will be her first time experiencing a Michigan winter (she was born and raised in Texas).
John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
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Anyway, they managed to get all of the steel work up before any serious winter weather hit and they've now enclosed it in a temporary 'shell' of plastic, sort of like how they 'tent' a house when fumigating for termites. They're going to continue to work on the inside through the winter months (note that they don't expect to occupy the building before the fall semester of 2024).
Anyway, here's what that building looks like as of this morning (and yes, that's fresh snow on the ground):
Interesting side note, our granddaughter #4, and her parents, are just now leaving Houston on a flight which will eventually get them to Houghton, Michigan about 6:00pm this evening. This is the trip where she's going to be interviewed for that four-year, full-tuition scholarship. She has several meetings tomorrow and then they're going to be spending Friday night with my brother and his wife, who live about 35 miles away. They fly home Saturday night. I hope that she's no put-off by the weather. She's only been up there each of the last two summers for week long STEM workshops. This will be her first time experiencing a Michigan winter (she was born and raised in Texas).
John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
Alistair_Heaton
Mechanical
I did think John "I hope someone goes and checks the bolt torques when it warms up".
JohnRBaker
Mechanical
These guys have built a lot of buildings on this campus, and none have fallen down yet ;-) Besides, it's an engineering school with lots of civil engineering students and facility who I assume are watching the progress of this building almost daily. The contractor is probably getting more 'advice' than he can handle.
John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
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The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
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John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
SWComposites
Aerospace
John - that doesn't look like very much snow for Houghton. I had friends tell me about walking out second story doors in the winter there.
I'm originally from MI (Farmington). Happy to not have to deal with that white stuff anymore (currently in San Diego CA).
I'm originally from MI (Farmington). Happy to not have to deal with that white stuff anymore (currently in San Diego CA).
Alistair_Heaton
Mechanical
I wasn't meaning your structure I meant the one I saw going to the beach. It was -10 deg C when they were building it.
JohnRBaker
Mechanical
BTW, I used to work in in Farmington Hills, back in 1986-87.
Note that according to the local snowfall website for the area, they had 1.5 inches of snow in October, 28 inches in November, 80 inches in December and so far in January, 4.5 inches. They're predicting about two to three inches for today. In total, that's close to 120 inches so far. Considering that they only got about 136 inches last year, it's looking like this will be a much better year. However, the record is still 356 inches for the 1978-79 winter. My biggest year was 1970-71, when I was a senior, and they got nearly 280 inches of snow.
John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
Note that according to the local snowfall website for the area, they had 1.5 inches of snow in October, 28 inches in November, 80 inches in December and so far in January, 4.5 inches. They're predicting about two to three inches for today. In total, that's close to 120 inches so far. Considering that they only got about 136 inches last year, it's looking like this will be a much better year. However, the record is still 356 inches for the 1978-79 winter. My biggest year was 1970-71, when I was a senior, and they got nearly 280 inches of snow.
John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:
The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without
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