Fastener Common Practice?

[rudopo]

Considering the time it takes to include all bolts and pins in an assembly (progressive die, fab. cell), is it common practice to leave them out or put them in?

 

[Heckler]

rudopo,

It depends how big you want your assemblies to grow ultimately using computer resources. I usually put a high amount of definition into bolted joints just to see any interface issues that may arise. Some times I include them in my upper assembly or I will just do them on the side. I personally like to see definition because it lends to pretty pictures for management, the customers, and the marketees.

Best Regards,

Heckler

"Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups" John Kenneth Galbraith

 

[progressivedieguy]

Rudopo,

I do alot of Progressive die work for tooling houses using Pro-e. I have seen a great demand for insuring that all bolts, pins and dowels are in the assembly. Otherwise tool makers on the floor assume that it is a counterbored hole for a die button, guide pin, ect.... It is very timely, but keeps the toolmakers off your back along with less finger pointing when a mistake is made on the floor.

Just keep givin er...........

Progressive die guy

 

[Tofflemire]

Hello,

I would agree, you should put all the parts in, you will get your bill of materials qty correct, and you may pick up interference with something... It does not take that long if you patterns to create you holes and things, then you ref pattern on assembly.

Tofflemire

 

[Guest0527211403]

If you don't have a reference pattern to assemble to, you can also use the "Repeat" command.

Assemble one fastener, and then (in WF) select Edit-->Repeat. This tool allows you to assemble many of the same part to different locations without having to go through all of the assembly steps.

Another useful tool in Wildfire is the Component Interface command, although it doesn't always work the way I want it to.

In 2001, the Repeat command is in the Component-->Advanced Operations menu or something like that.



(...did you call me, progressivedieguy? hehe)

Mark

 

[3dlogix]

It is good technique to include them, as mentioned earlier, for interference and clearance checks.

If they become too heavy (memory wise), make a simpl-rep to exclude them when working in the top-level assemblies.

Steve

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