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Structural
- Oct 19, 2010
- 70
I have an architecturally exposed steel stair with typical section shown in the attachment. The steel fabricator claimed that the continuous fillet weld I called out between the vertical plate and the horizontal tread plate would generate too much heat to cause the horizontal plate to distort. They therefore suggest using intermittent fillet weld instead, then fill the gap between the welds with something called "plastic filler" to make the appearance the same as the adjacent real welds (because they are exposed to view).
From the strength point of view, intermittent welds would work without any problem, and the only reason I called out continuous welds is to have a uniform and consistent look for this architecturally exposed stair (AESS).
My questions are:
1. The horizontal tread plate is 12" wide and about 6'-6" long overall, the weld between the vertical stiffener plate and this tread plate is 3/16" fillet weld by 5 foot long on each side. In my mind, this is not an excessively heavy and long weld. I doubt that heat distortion would be a problem in this case if appropriate measures are taken. Could it simply be a matter of fabrication procedure in the shop? If so, instead of getting involved in the matter of means and method, what I, as the design engineer, can suggest to prevent such problem?
2. Would it help if they do intermittent welds first, say 6"@12", then come back to weld the gap in between in the 2nd run?
3. I'm not sure about the use of the "plastic filler" as it's something like Automotive Joint and Seam Sealer, such as Bondo. Might it crack or peel off down the road?
Thank you.
From the strength point of view, intermittent welds would work without any problem, and the only reason I called out continuous welds is to have a uniform and consistent look for this architecturally exposed stair (AESS).
My questions are:
1. The horizontal tread plate is 12" wide and about 6'-6" long overall, the weld between the vertical stiffener plate and this tread plate is 3/16" fillet weld by 5 foot long on each side. In my mind, this is not an excessively heavy and long weld. I doubt that heat distortion would be a problem in this case if appropriate measures are taken. Could it simply be a matter of fabrication procedure in the shop? If so, instead of getting involved in the matter of means and method, what I, as the design engineer, can suggest to prevent such problem?
2. Would it help if they do intermittent welds first, say 6"@12", then come back to weld the gap in between in the 2nd run?
3. I'm not sure about the use of the "plastic filler" as it's something like Automotive Joint and Seam Sealer, such as Bondo. Might it crack or peel off down the road?
Thank you.