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In over 30 years working in various industries, I have yet to be employed by a company where having PE as part of your title is a prerequisite to being called an "Engineer". Of course, services aren't independently offered to the general public, but are rendered through a parent company to industry (my experience being mainly with military, aerospace and gas/oil industries).
I do not argue with the fact that engineers are the ones responsible for the heavy number crunching, but a good designer should have the knowledge and capability to recommend materials, fasteners, finishes, etc. It is still the engineeers responsibility to accept or reject those recommendations. I also agree that having that PE credential is a good thing. I just don't think it is a requirement across the board to do engineering. If it is, I know of quite a few "engineers" breaking the law.
“Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively.”
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I do not argue with the fact that engineers are the ones responsible for the heavy number crunching, but a good designer should have the knowledge and capability to recommend materials, fasteners, finishes, etc. It is still the engineeers responsibility to accept or reject those recommendations. I also agree that having that PE credential is a good thing. I just don't think it is a requirement across the board to do engineering. If it is, I know of quite a few "engineers" breaking the law.
“Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively.”
-Dalai Lama XIV
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I spent 20 or so year pretending to be an engineer. I was given the chance to get a qualification and I took my opportunity. I did an HNC, literally aced it. Then did a degree, aced that too. Now I'm a Chartered Engineer.
Do I know any more than before..? No!
The qualifications just allow me to prove what I know.
Do I earn more, a little, but certainly not 70k per year.
I've done manual work, CAD (including AutoCAD) and drawings, I also did all of the calculations. Now that I'm a "professional engineer" I don't do anything engineering, I just tick boxes.
A good engineer is a good engineer, qualifications or no qualifications.
A point to note, the Institution of Mechanical Engineers and the Engineering Council assessed the merits of reserving the title of engineer for qualified people, they found that it would be counterproductive, so they didn't push it.
Do I know any more than before..? No!
The qualifications just allow me to prove what I know.
Do I earn more, a little, but certainly not 70k per year.
I've done manual work, CAD (including AutoCAD) and drawings, I also did all of the calculations. Now that I'm a "professional engineer" I don't do anything engineering, I just tick boxes.
A good engineer is a good engineer, qualifications or no qualifications.
A point to note, the Institution of Mechanical Engineers and the Engineering Council assessed the merits of reserving the title of engineer for qualified people, they found that it would be counterproductive, so they didn't push it.
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