structuralengr89
Structural
- Jun 28, 2006
- 108
I contacted a local "PEMB Engineer" today to ask if they include differential settlement in their design calculations. I practice in an area with highly expansive soils and shallow foundations frequently exhibit differential movement vertically between the columns.
He stated that horizontal movement of the foundation would cause increases in Moments (I agree), but vertical movement would not. I then asked him, so if you have a portal frame spanning 20' and then one end drops 6" due to the soil, this would not cause changes in Moment to the frame? He said it would not. He said that if there was an interior post, this could cause increases in stresses/moment...but for clearspans there would be no change in the Moment.
What am I missing here??? Do PEMB suppliers assume that the beam/columns are not fully fixed or something?
When I've gone back and performed calculations of old PEMB in our state (using Ram Elements), they rarely have the capacity to handle code gravity loads, much less any lateral load. Additional stresses due to vertical differential settlements would push them past what is allowable.
Then again, I've seen many PEMB that are on foundations that have moved substantially...and they are still standing!!!
He stated that horizontal movement of the foundation would cause increases in Moments (I agree), but vertical movement would not. I then asked him, so if you have a portal frame spanning 20' and then one end drops 6" due to the soil, this would not cause changes in Moment to the frame? He said it would not. He said that if there was an interior post, this could cause increases in stresses/moment...but for clearspans there would be no change in the Moment.
What am I missing here??? Do PEMB suppliers assume that the beam/columns are not fully fixed or something?
When I've gone back and performed calculations of old PEMB in our state (using Ram Elements), they rarely have the capacity to handle code gravity loads, much less any lateral load. Additional stresses due to vertical differential settlements would push them past what is allowable.
Then again, I've seen many PEMB that are on foundations that have moved substantially...and they are still standing!!!