Wayintenseone
Mechanical
- Jan 8, 2010
- 1
Hello. In the process of describing something to a colleague, I quickly realized that I have forgotten most of what I once knew about controls. I'm hoping somebody might point me in the right direction with some key-words or terms that relate to the following so I can search for and find comprehensive info on the subject. Here we go:
How do you, in technical terms, characterize a control system that can only output a positive or a negative output. For example: in a normal positioning application - we might be able to extend or retract an actuator or rotate a motor CW or CCW. (Move both ways.) On overshoots; no problem - the device just goes back the other way. But what about situations where the system can not move both ways. Let's take a car, for example, that we want to bring just to a brick wall as quickly as possible without actually making physical contact. We can only control our rate of braking; the ability to go in reverse is of no value to us.
Another example: say we have a vessel of liquid and we want to lower the liquid level to a specific point. We only have a level transducer and a proportional valve to control the rate of liquid that is drained. We have no ability to add liquid to teh vessel.
So I'm talking about systems that just can't recover from overshoots. The first overshoot is a permanent, uncorrectable error. What do we call this situation? Are there special modifcations to PID schemes or other control schemes/mechanisms that are used in these special cases?
I actually don't have a real application. This just popped into my mind and it's bugging me that I don't know the answer. Thanks for any education you might offer!
-Dave
How do you, in technical terms, characterize a control system that can only output a positive or a negative output. For example: in a normal positioning application - we might be able to extend or retract an actuator or rotate a motor CW or CCW. (Move both ways.) On overshoots; no problem - the device just goes back the other way. But what about situations where the system can not move both ways. Let's take a car, for example, that we want to bring just to a brick wall as quickly as possible without actually making physical contact. We can only control our rate of braking; the ability to go in reverse is of no value to us.
Another example: say we have a vessel of liquid and we want to lower the liquid level to a specific point. We only have a level transducer and a proportional valve to control the rate of liquid that is drained. We have no ability to add liquid to teh vessel.
So I'm talking about systems that just can't recover from overshoots. The first overshoot is a permanent, uncorrectable error. What do we call this situation? Are there special modifcations to PID schemes or other control schemes/mechanisms that are used in these special cases?
I actually don't have a real application. This just popped into my mind and it's bugging me that I don't know the answer. Thanks for any education you might offer!
-Dave