AAHstruct
Structural
- Oct 25, 2005
- 7
Hi. I’m a Professional Engineer in structural looking to start up a little side-business in Idaho, and I have a couple of questions regarding contracting and liability. I think that my situation is pretty commonplace, and I hope to tap into other’s expertise for advice. (I apologize if these questions have already been addressed, but I couldn’t find any threads on these topics elsewhere and my experience with a construction lawyer earlier this week was less than satisfying).
I’ve been recently contacted by several designers looking for an engineer that will provide limited scope services for their residential structures. Most of the time they need calculations on a portal wall, a perforated shear wall, tall walls, or anything that doesn’t fit under conventional construction, in order to secure a building permit.
The following are the questions I have about this process:
1. Is there a standard contract I can use for these types of projects, or is there an example of a contract I could use? Would a standard AIA C142 contract or a standard EJCDC 520 contract apply for these types of projects? (I’d like to know if they’d work before I purchase copies of them).
2. Since I’d be doing work for the designer, who is under contract by the owner, I have concerns about getting paid, being so far removed from the money. Wouldn’t it be better to be contracted directly with the owner? And have people been successful in securing contracts with the owner over the designer? From the owner’s perspective, I assume they pay the designer a lot and expect them to be able to secure the permits for their custom home without having to mess with hiring an engineer. From the designer’s perspective, engineering is a commodity business, and they just want the cheapest, fastest engineer they can find that will get them their permit. I don’t want to fall into the commodity trap, if possible.
3. If my professional seal is required on the construction drawings because it contains engineered elements, is it possible to limit my liability to only the engineered components, or would I be accepting liability to all information on the drawing? Could I put a disclaimer next to the seal which states specifically what elements my engineering seal pertains to? I’ve had someone suggest to me that I create a separate drawing for only the engineered portions and provide my seal only on that drawing; however, for simplicity, and from the contractor’s perspective, it would probably be better to have similar information shown in the same place (for example, if typical conventional structure holdowns are shown on the floor plan, but the holdowns for the engineered portion of the building are on a separate sheet, it would likely be missed by a contractor).
4. Finally, I’m also concerned about doing engineering services for portions of structures to be built in multiple locations by developers. I think it should be possible to define in a contract exactly where and how many residences of a particular design can be built (because as more residences are built, the more liability risk I would assume), but I’m concerned about developers (or designers for developers) using my engineered designs and calculations for residences that are outside of the original contract without authorization. Have people had success in limiting the quantity and locations where these designs can be used by developers? And have people had success in getting subsequent contracts for the design to be used in places outside of the original contract (with a review for applicability of the original design, of course)?
I'm sorry this post is so long, but I’d REALLY appreciate any advice people could give me on these matters and I’m looking forward to reading the responses. Naturally, I’m really gun-shy about starting a business, and want to make sure I have all my bases covered before I get myself into trouble. By the way, I’m in the process of applying for my E&O insurance, the business will be a sole proprietorship, and I’ll be working out of my home office. THANKS!
I’ve been recently contacted by several designers looking for an engineer that will provide limited scope services for their residential structures. Most of the time they need calculations on a portal wall, a perforated shear wall, tall walls, or anything that doesn’t fit under conventional construction, in order to secure a building permit.
The following are the questions I have about this process:
1. Is there a standard contract I can use for these types of projects, or is there an example of a contract I could use? Would a standard AIA C142 contract or a standard EJCDC 520 contract apply for these types of projects? (I’d like to know if they’d work before I purchase copies of them).
2. Since I’d be doing work for the designer, who is under contract by the owner, I have concerns about getting paid, being so far removed from the money. Wouldn’t it be better to be contracted directly with the owner? And have people been successful in securing contracts with the owner over the designer? From the owner’s perspective, I assume they pay the designer a lot and expect them to be able to secure the permits for their custom home without having to mess with hiring an engineer. From the designer’s perspective, engineering is a commodity business, and they just want the cheapest, fastest engineer they can find that will get them their permit. I don’t want to fall into the commodity trap, if possible.
3. If my professional seal is required on the construction drawings because it contains engineered elements, is it possible to limit my liability to only the engineered components, or would I be accepting liability to all information on the drawing? Could I put a disclaimer next to the seal which states specifically what elements my engineering seal pertains to? I’ve had someone suggest to me that I create a separate drawing for only the engineered portions and provide my seal only on that drawing; however, for simplicity, and from the contractor’s perspective, it would probably be better to have similar information shown in the same place (for example, if typical conventional structure holdowns are shown on the floor plan, but the holdowns for the engineered portion of the building are on a separate sheet, it would likely be missed by a contractor).
4. Finally, I’m also concerned about doing engineering services for portions of structures to be built in multiple locations by developers. I think it should be possible to define in a contract exactly where and how many residences of a particular design can be built (because as more residences are built, the more liability risk I would assume), but I’m concerned about developers (or designers for developers) using my engineered designs and calculations for residences that are outside of the original contract without authorization. Have people had success in limiting the quantity and locations where these designs can be used by developers? And have people had success in getting subsequent contracts for the design to be used in places outside of the original contract (with a review for applicability of the original design, of course)?
I'm sorry this post is so long, but I’d REALLY appreciate any advice people could give me on these matters and I’m looking forward to reading the responses. Naturally, I’m really gun-shy about starting a business, and want to make sure I have all my bases covered before I get myself into trouble. By the way, I’m in the process of applying for my E&O insurance, the business will be a sole proprietorship, and I’ll be working out of my home office. THANKS!