Sep 16, 2008 #1 mauner Mechanical Joined Sep 16, 2003 Messages 67 Location US Hello all, Does anyone have weather data for temperature and humidity conditions in the Persian Gulf? Any military standards or handbooks? Thanks in advanced
Hello all, Does anyone have weather data for temperature and humidity conditions in the Persian Gulf? Any military standards or handbooks? Thanks in advanced
Sep 16, 2008 1 #2 IRstuff Aerospace Joined Jun 3, 2002 Messages 44,904 Location US To do what? Since you're posting in a military engineering forum, the most obvious choice is MIL-HDBK-310. Somewhere, related to NOAA, I think, was a database with weather station data from all over the world. TTFN FAQ731-376 Upvote 0 Downvote
To do what? Since you're posting in a military engineering forum, the most obvious choice is MIL-HDBK-310. Somewhere, related to NOAA, I think, was a database with weather station data from all over the world. TTFN FAQ731-376
Sep 17, 2008 1 Thread starter #3 mauner Mechanical Joined Sep 16, 2003 Messages 67 Location US Thanks IRstuff, My task is to evaluate heat load on air conditioning unit. MIL-HDBK-310 is good but I'm not sure I understand what is the normal weather conditions for various months of the year. Does the 1% value correspond to 3.65 days in the year and the 20% to 73 days in the year? What two month period is the worst for highest humidity/temperature in the Persian Gulf region? Upvote 0 Downvote
Thanks IRstuff, My task is to evaluate heat load on air conditioning unit. MIL-HDBK-310 is good but I'm not sure I understand what is the normal weather conditions for various months of the year. Does the 1% value correspond to 3.65 days in the year and the 20% to 73 days in the year? What two month period is the worst for highest humidity/temperature in the Persian Gulf region?
Sep 17, 2008 #4 IRstuff Aerospace Joined Jun 3, 2002 Messages 44,904 Location US Maybe somewhere in here: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/climatedata.html#daily This is the daily data from a station in Abu Dhabi: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/CDO2532271535075.txt TTFN FAQ731-376 Upvote 0 Downvote
Maybe somewhere in here: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/climatedata.html#daily This is the daily data from a station in Abu Dhabi: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/CDO2532271535075.txt TTFN FAQ731-376
Sep 18, 2008 Thread starter #5 mauner Mechanical Joined Sep 16, 2003 Messages 67 Location US Thanks again IRstuff, That information looks good - I did not find any R.H data. But I did find some temperature data at http://www.rimfrost.no/I was a little concerned because some of the locations were missing alot of data. mauner Upvote 0 Downvote
Thanks again IRstuff, That information looks good - I did not find any R.H data. But I did find some temperature data at http://www.rimfrost.no/I was a little concerned because some of the locations were missing alot of data. mauner
Sep 18, 2008 Thread starter #6 mauner Mechanical Joined Sep 16, 2003 Messages 67 Location US IRstuff, Can you explain how you got the data for Abu Dhabi. I need to get the same kind of data for Albadan, Iran. mauner Upvote 0 Downvote
IRstuff, Can you explain how you got the data for Abu Dhabi. I need to get the same kind of data for Albadan, Iran. mauner
Sep 18, 2008 Thread starter #7 mauner Mechanical Joined Sep 16, 2003 Messages 67 Location US Correction Abadan (30.4 N, 48.2 E) Upvote 0 Downvote
Sep 18, 2008 #8 IRstuff Aerospace Joined Jun 3, 2002 Messages 44,904 Location US This is the full up station list. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/inventories/ISH-HISTORY.TXT I don't see your particular location on the list, so you'll probably need to find the next closest one. the station number is entered here: http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/CDO/cdoselect.cmd?datasetabbv=GSOD&countryabbv=&georegionabbv= This http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/CDO/cdosubqueryrouter.cmd allows you select from the pulldown menu while RH is not explicitly stated, the dew point is, and dew point and temperature can be related back to RH, I think... Abu Dhabi, being in the Gulf itself, shows pretty high dewpoints, indicative of relatively high RH. TTFN FAQ731-376 Upvote 0 Downvote
This is the full up station list. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/inventories/ISH-HISTORY.TXT I don't see your particular location on the list, so you'll probably need to find the next closest one. the station number is entered here: http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/CDO/cdoselect.cmd?datasetabbv=GSOD&countryabbv=&georegionabbv= This http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/CDO/cdosubqueryrouter.cmd allows you select from the pulldown menu while RH is not explicitly stated, the dew point is, and dew point and temperature can be related back to RH, I think... Abu Dhabi, being in the Gulf itself, shows pretty high dewpoints, indicative of relatively high RH. TTFN FAQ731-376
Sep 18, 2008 #9 IRstuff Aerospace Joined Jun 3, 2002 Messages 44,904 Location US I think what you need is more like: http://cdo.ncdc.noaa.gov/pls/plclimprod/cdomain.abbrev2idwhich is hourly data, but it looks like you have to pay for it. TTFN FAQ731-376 Upvote 0 Downvote
I think what you need is more like: http://cdo.ncdc.noaa.gov/pls/plclimprod/cdomain.abbrev2idwhich is hourly data, but it looks like you have to pay for it. TTFN FAQ731-376
Oct 1, 2008 #10 mshimko Materials Joined Oct 27, 2004 Messages 364 Location US If you are tasked to evaluate the heat load, didn't the tasking contain parameters? Upvote 0 Downvote
Oct 2, 2008 Thread starter #11 mauner Mechanical Joined Sep 16, 2003 Messages 67 Location US The parameter was "in the Persian Gulf". Subsequently, I found a DOD sight that also provides Engineering Weather Data (EWD) free of charge - no account is needed if you have a CAC. 14th Weather Squadron, Strategic Climatic Information Service at: https://notus2.afccc.af.mil/SCISPublic/ I was told about this site when I called the phone number listed in Mil-hdbk-310. Upvote 0 Downvote
The parameter was "in the Persian Gulf". Subsequently, I found a DOD sight that also provides Engineering Weather Data (EWD) free of charge - no account is needed if you have a CAC. 14th Weather Squadron, Strategic Climatic Information Service at: https://notus2.afccc.af.mil/SCISPublic/ I was told about this site when I called the phone number listed in Mil-hdbk-310.
Oct 2, 2008 #12 IRstuff Aerospace Joined Jun 3, 2002 Messages 44,904 Location US Thanks.... TTFN FAQ731-376 Upvote 0 Downvote
Oct 3, 2008 #13 zeusfaber Military Joined May 26, 2003 Messages 2,466 Location GB For more general information, DEF STAN 00-35 Part 4 (from http://www.dstan.mod.uk) might also be worth a look. A. Upvote 0 Downvote
For more general information, DEF STAN 00-35 Part 4 (from http://www.dstan.mod.uk) might also be worth a look. A.