China Eastern Airlines flight MU5735 737-800 Crash 17

[Eufalconimorph]

Avherald.

Reuters.

Dash cam footage showing crash angle.

Video of security camera video, straight on (angle of descent looks steeper than reality).

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Its not normal to release the CVR recording. Key statements which add to the situation will be included in the report but not the full transcript.

I might add it would be extremely unusual if not unique for the NTSB as secondary support in an investigation to release any data which they have helped with or issue a statement.

Yes the FAA can issue a statement saying that there is no flight safety issues rising from an on going investigation on an aircraft type who they are primary certification holders of. But the actual details of why they won't give details.

To be honest the FAA issuing that statement says more to me than anything else but we will have to wait for the investigation to finish.

 

[dik]

dik,

CPC under Xi is now so reactionary that they automatically lash out at anything that deviates from fullblown praise of their world domination policies. Which, if anyone needs reminding, includes aggressive hacking and IP theft, extra-territorial political interference and intimidation, industrial scale internment camps, constant surveillance of citizens, hostage diplomacy, and loansharking poorer countries with natural resources.
The US is far from perfect (China plays the hypocrisy card endlessly), but I know who I would trust more in this situation...

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[1503-44]

Its the old rock and a hard spot. Releasing a statement or remaining silent.

A black swan to a turkey is a white swan to the butcher ... and to Boeing.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

When the statement might include revenge, loss of face its no wonder nobody wants to give a statement. They wouldn't in the western world either due having to spend years in court being sued.

 

[SnTMan]

At least you'd get to go home at night

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[dik]

Let's keep the politics out of this.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?

-Dik

 

I'm afraid it's already well embedded in the story and in this thread, but I take your point.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[hokie66]

dik,

It is not about politics, it is the tyrannical Chinese Communist Party. Are you defending or apologizing for its suppression of information?

 

[dik]

Nope, Hokie... it's just a different form of suppression...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?

-Dik

 

[hokie66]

Different from what?

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Btw I haven't seen anything different with the Chinese investigation or release of data compared to what happened with the investigation with German wings.

Which was completely a French/German investigation.

 

It will all be revealed soon enough.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[LittleInch]

Out of curiosity I went looking the other day to see any updates.

Since the flurry of reports in Nay about basically one of the crew apparently deciding to fly it into the ground, not a single word since then.

When is the report meant to be issued legally?

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[hacksaw]

The video capture of the plane in nose dive, shows faint condensation shock over the wings, and the timeline-elevation data suggest near sonic descent. Basically the craft experienced aerodynamic stall at flight elevation, and due to the automated flight controls malfunction or an atmospheric downburst that reversed the airflow over the wings that forced a major stall and loss of lift, tend to force the craft into full nose dive.

Above a critical, near sonic velocity, the flight controls for subsonic flight only increase the descent. Modern supersonic craft automatically account for the reverse-acting control requirements, but not commercial subsonic passenger craft.

There is no possible recovery of proper flight control at that point.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

They will have to issue an update in March next year.

But it might not contain much