We have set up company standard UDF flies that make the hole process quicker to match what we consider a standard hole. Many times we need threads that are non standard to the Machinery Handbook but are common to us so UDFs seemed to be the most logical. Thanks for the tip on the C"BORE call out, I will give that a try. I have heard, maybe someone else will verify, that they have improved holes in Wildfire? I know that patterning has become a whole lot more flexible.