P1ENG
Structural
- Aug 25, 2010
- 237
Per the commentary of C5.2.1, the alpha factor (1/[Φ])of the standard is a magnification factor. The commentary also states that this amplification factor is due to the applied moment and the secondary moment resulting from the applied axial load P and the deflection of the member. This sounds like P-[Δ] to me, but perhaps is P-[δ].
My problem is this: I have a RISA-3D model with P-[Δ] being considered. I am pulling member forces from the model to check in CFS, but the member is failing greatly because the axial load is about 60% of capacity, which makes the [Φ] factor 2.5 (1/40%). Therefore, if I had a member check using P/Pa + M/Ma (0.6 + 0.4) = 1.0, but per the specification I need to do P/Pa + [Φ]*M/Ma (0.6 + 2.5*0.4) = 1.6. This is a large hit to take when I think the amplification factor is only there to conservatively account for P-[Δ] affects, and I have the actual P-[Δ] forces.
In summary, AISI does not address second-order affects, buy my model is considering them. Therefore, can I ignore the amplification factor on the M/Ma ratio?
P = Applied axial compression
Pa = Allowable axial compression
M = Applied bending moment
Ma = Allowable bending moment
*Equations above are simplified.
Juston Fluckey, E.I.
Engineering Consultant
My problem is this: I have a RISA-3D model with P-[Δ] being considered. I am pulling member forces from the model to check in CFS, but the member is failing greatly because the axial load is about 60% of capacity, which makes the [Φ] factor 2.5 (1/40%). Therefore, if I had a member check using P/Pa + M/Ma (0.6 + 0.4) = 1.0, but per the specification I need to do P/Pa + [Φ]*M/Ma (0.6 + 2.5*0.4) = 1.6. This is a large hit to take when I think the amplification factor is only there to conservatively account for P-[Δ] affects, and I have the actual P-[Δ] forces.
In summary, AISI does not address second-order affects, buy my model is considering them. Therefore, can I ignore the amplification factor on the M/Ma ratio?
P = Applied axial compression
Pa = Allowable axial compression
M = Applied bending moment
Ma = Allowable bending moment
*Equations above are simplified.
Juston Fluckey, E.I.
Engineering Consultant