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  1. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    Your opinion is your right, everyone has one, you have no right to deem something irrelevant or valueless for other people. http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=305808&page=1 That thread was started because of this thread, for example. You're incorrect about the brain % use of common...
  2. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    @Wilder If something can really be interpreted multiple ways then you would of course do the safest option possible, rather than use the wording to say that you can get away with this or that, as a code is generally laying out minimum standards/rules and not meant to be interpreted to mean that...
  3. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    In one of my earlier posts in this very thread, I said this, "such as the 'proper feeling of weight to put on the brake of a car to slow it to a stop without causing unnecessary wear on the brake, screeching, or dangerous sliding such as on a slippery surface'. THAT is an example of something...
  4. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    @NewtonFP's above post Thanks that is a really clear description, I can see what you mean, but why wouldn't experienced sprinkler designers write about this in guidebooks, not the standards or codes, but 'how to design sprinkler systems' type books? it seems like it would be a no brainer to...
  5. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    What does it matter, according to you even if I accepted that there is no way to prepare myself for this situation, the end result is still the same... If the HVAC guy installs something where he said he wouldn't, and you hit his stuff, then no matter how experienced you are you hit their...
  6. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    I'd just like to clarify something since most people hate the idea of being compared to a computer. But if you imagined yourself without any senses - no vision, none whatsoever, no hearing, no smell, no taste, and no touch (no feeling of heat/cold either), even if your body was functioning...
  7. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    So you are saying it's impossible for a rookie to either draw in 3D or note the dimensions of obstructions and make sure there is enough room for fitters to install? It seems like it would be fairly obvious that you would go for the most wide open spaces possible - do the best you can, and if it...
  8. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    Isn't this a trial and error process, regardless of experience? Assuming you accounted for the rules and other requirements, how would you know that option A is better than option B,C,D,E,F There must be some place you go to find out, if not, how would you gain experience since you would...
  9. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    Still curious as to an example of 'know-how' that you can't get out of books on the subject
  10. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    Isn't this all due to memory? For example where to find it: Memorizing page numbers or the index along with the complete information How to interpret it: memorizing the lingo and definitions specific in the codes/manuals Apply it: recalling from memory the various rules/regulations during...
  11. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    out of curiosity what is E & O? if there are unexpected field modifications then it would simply require a partial/full redesign right? how does that seperate rookies from experienced layouters? what is an example of something beyond the scope of the code/standard
  12. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    Thank you for this example, but why would someone who has memorized that particular requirement fail to apply it every time? Wouldn't doing so be a failure of remembering to do it (memory) rather than failure of application?
  13. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    The topic was created because I figured there must be someone somewhere who has to check to make sure the sprinkler designers are doing their job right, the architect is doing his job right, the electricians are doing their job right, etc. I figured either this is a network of people working...
  14. laminarpath

    Is learning Autosprink a waste of time?

    If everyone gave equal wait to learning all things, accountants could end up spending all of their time learning about the middle ages, doctors would spend their time learning about how to design graphics, etc (since we can't download information like in the matrix, this presents a problem)...
  15. laminarpath

    Is there any use learning all fire related codes by heart?

    I can't memorize like that, I just know someone who can (that's how he explained it to me and even though I'm not like him, I could make myself spend a lot of time trying to emulate him because I have a long time before I'll be doing this for a job) I believe what you all are saying but I don't...
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