Your opinion is your right, everyone has one, you have no right to deem something irrelevant or valueless for other people.
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=305808&page=1
That thread was started because of this thread, for example.
You're incorrect about the brain % use of common...
@Wilder
If something can really be interpreted multiple ways then you would of course do the safest option possible, rather than use the wording to say that you can get away with this or that, as a code is generally laying out minimum standards/rules and not meant to be interpreted to mean that...
In one of my earlier posts in this very thread, I said this, "such as the 'proper feeling of weight to put on the brake of a car to slow it to a stop without causing unnecessary wear on the brake, screeching, or dangerous sliding such as on a slippery surface'. THAT is an example of something...
@NewtonFP's above post
Thanks that is a really clear description,
I can see what you mean, but why wouldn't experienced sprinkler designers write about this in guidebooks, not the standards or codes, but 'how to design sprinkler systems' type books?
it seems like it would be a no brainer to...
What does it matter, according to you even if I accepted that there is no way to prepare myself for this situation, the end result is still the same...
If the HVAC guy installs something where he said he wouldn't, and you hit his stuff, then no matter how experienced you are you hit their...
I'd just like to clarify something since most people hate the idea of being compared to a computer. But if you imagined yourself without any senses - no vision, none whatsoever, no hearing, no smell, no taste, and no touch (no feeling of heat/cold either), even if your body was functioning...
So you are saying it's impossible for a rookie to either draw in 3D or note the dimensions of obstructions and make sure there is enough room for fitters to install? It seems like it would be fairly obvious that you would go for the most wide open spaces possible - do the best you can, and if it...
Isn't this a trial and error process, regardless of experience?
Assuming you accounted for the rules and other requirements, how would you know that option A is better than option B,C,D,E,F
There must be some place you go to find out, if not, how would you gain experience since you would...
Isn't this all due to memory?
For example where to find it: Memorizing page numbers or the index along with the complete information
How to interpret it: memorizing the lingo and definitions specific in the codes/manuals
Apply it: recalling from memory the various rules/regulations during...
out of curiosity what is E & O?
if there are unexpected field modifications then it would simply require a partial/full redesign right? how does that seperate rookies from experienced layouters?
what is an example of something beyond the scope of the code/standard
Thank you for this example, but why would someone who has memorized that particular requirement fail to apply it every time? Wouldn't doing so be a failure of remembering to do it (memory) rather than failure of application?
The topic was created because I figured there must be someone somewhere who has to check to make sure the sprinkler designers are doing their job right, the architect is doing his job right, the electricians are doing their job right, etc. I figured either this is a network of people working...
If everyone gave equal wait to learning all things, accountants could end up spending all of their time learning about the middle ages, doctors would spend their time learning about how to design graphics, etc (since we can't download information like in the matrix, this presents a problem)...
I can't memorize like that, I just know someone who can (that's how he explained it to me and even though I'm not like him, I could make myself spend a lot of time trying to emulate him because I have a long time before I'll be doing this for a job)
I believe what you all are saying but I don't...
Could you give me an example of difficulty interpreting the code? I've looked at it and my problem is I don't understand the terminology yet, but I assumed that once I understood the concepts and lingo that reading the manual would be clear cut..
And I'm guessing that most of the difficulty of...
If one had the ability to quickly memorize NFPA codes/standards perfectly by heart and completely understand it all also, is there any high paying jobs for such a person that would utilize multiple skills, or is it best to specialize in one or two areas (such as sprinkler design, fire hazards)...
