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    NFPA 14 Handbook

    There are NFPA 14 excerpts, with commentary, included in the front of the 2007 NFPA 20 Handbook for Stationary Fire Pumps Depending on what you are looking for, this may help. Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Small closets in office buildings

    Just a thought, the general storage rules in NFPA 13 state that OH1 can protect Clkass I and Class II Commodities. It says nothing about Class III or Class IV or Group A Plastics. These fall under OH2. May seem to be picking nits, but I find it difficult to believe that these closets, no...
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    Restraint of Branch Lines

    Wire is another option. Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Restraint of Branch Lines

    Based on this information, YES, you must provide branchline restraint for the 2-in. branchlines. Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Restraint of Branch Lines

    It depends. You may not dismiss branchline restraint just because the mains attached are braced. What size are the branchlines? How long is the run between the mains? How are the branchlines hung, ie, how long is the hanger assembly? Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Domes

    Other than the exceptions for sidewalls underneath garage doors in NFPA 13, sidewall heads need a ceiling above them and a wall behind them. I'd be curious to hear that equivalency suggestion. Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Heads on a branch line

    jkampana said: "I have done the room design method numerous times in this fashion and haven't had a problem getting it passed through the cities." Just because you got it past the reviewing authority does not make it right. Many authorities do not have the expertise needed to catch this...
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    ESFR Design Proposal

    Arsnman4, Firstly, I agree with Travis. Clearly ESFR does not work for very many flammable/combustible liquid design scenarios. Secondly, you need to get an FPE involved and determine what level of protection you actually need besides the ESFR. Thirdly, is this a situation where they want the...
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    Sprinkler requirements for long term care facilities effective 2013

    They would only possibly have standard response heads if they were already previously sprinklered, thus the wording "modifications or additions to EXISTING systems" If you are providing new sprinkler protection systems, then they will be Quick response, not standard response. Thanks for the...
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    New Role

    If you have no fire protection design experience, I am wondering how you could possibly supervise fire protection designers. This is not something you can "cram" for. Good luck to you in your interview. Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Section Modulus for Trap Members 10'-6" On Center

    I agree with Ed's suggestion. Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Section Modulus for Trap Members 10'-6" On Center

    Shawn, You may need to get help from a qualified (competent) engineer on this one. If you do not use the tables and parameters outlined within NFPA 13 (which many have argued contains all the engineering so you don't have to), then (as others have argued previously), you are interpretting...
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    top twelve list of some of the most significant changes in the FM Gl

    Travis, Honorable Mention: The requirement to include additional ESFR heads (installed due to obstructions) in hydraulic calculations has gone away. Fire Sprinklers Save Lives. Can You Live Without Them?
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    Zoning of systems???

    Stookey, I stand corrected, partially. You are correct in that IBC requires control valves and flow switches on any riser, whether it is a combination standpipe riser or dedicated sprinkler riser, in High Rise. However, IBC also refers to NFPA 14. NFPA 14, 2007, 6.3.5.1 states that "each...
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    Zoning of systems???

    Travis, as you are finding here in this situation, Building Codes and locally adopted Ordinances ALWAYS trump the NFPA 13 Standard (NOT a Code). In general, I think many believe (not necessarily You) and incorrectly so, that NFPA 13 is it, and if they comply with NFPA 13, they are finished...
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