## Pipe flowing compressible fluid

## Pipe flowing compressible fluid

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For pipe design flowing incompressible fluid, I use:

Darcy equation hf = f*(LV^2)/(2gD) and

Colebrook equation f = 0.25*[-log(0.27*k/D + 2.51/(Re*f^0.5))]^-2

where:

hf = friction loss

f = friction factor

L = length

V = velocity

g = gravity

D = diameter

k = equivalent roughness

Re = Reynolds number

I would like to know: how to procedure with compressible fluid?

Can anyone here help me?

Thanks.

Luiz

Darcy equation hf = f*(LV^2)/(2gD) and

Colebrook equation f = 0.25*[-log(0.27*k/D + 2.51/(Re*f^0.5))]^-2

where:

hf = friction loss

f = friction factor

L = length

V = velocity

g = gravity

D = diameter

k = equivalent roughness

Re = Reynolds number

I would like to know: how to procedure with compressible fluid?

Can anyone here help me?

Thanks.

Luiz

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

In general, for the incompressible flow, friction loss is either neglected or can be calculated by using some rule of tumb -- well it is isentropic efficiency for both compression and expansion. To be more specific and accurate, there is a way on how to calculate friction -- any good book on gas dynamics will have a separate chapter devoted to the flow with friction.

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## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

Crane Technical Paper #410 - "Flow of Fluids"

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Good Luck !!

MJC

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

For non-significant changes in fluid density the equations you present in your thread can be used as "dcasto (chemical)" points out (July 8, thread response).

However, for signifcant changes in fluid density the standard fluid mechanic relationships are used with the addition of a thermodynamic equation of state to account for the change in fluid density. Depending on the requirements of the problem the equation of state can range from the ideal to very complex .

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

GGW:

This is the question: I would like to use Darcy and Colebrook equations

to compute satured steam flow pipes size, say, 120 psi.

Can you tell me what is this equation of state?

Thanks.

Luiz

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

You have to find out the Mach no. of your steam flow. If it happens to be less than 0.3 you can neglect the compressible effects and use the same formulas applicable for non-compressible flow. Generally any industrial compressible flow rate are chosen such that the Mach. No. does not exceed 0.3. This is avoid choking in the areas like bends, entrance and exit areas.

Regards

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

Hello dazma,

Can you tell me how to get the Mach number?

Thanks.

Luiz

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

Hi MorelG

My fluid is satured steam flowing in pipes, say, at 35 m/s under 120 psi.

So Ma = 35/340 = 0.1

Is it considered incompressible?

Thanks

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

Yes, you can consider it as incompressible flow and use the relevant equations (incompressible flow eq.). Regards, Morel.

## RE: Pipe flowing compressible fluid

Ok Morel.

For satured steam in steel pipe under 8 Kgf/cm2 (113.7 psi)

and

D=0.10226 m (4" schedule 40)

k=0.0001m (0.0000305 ft)

V=30 m/s (9.14 ft/s)

v=0.0000035 m2/s (0.0000011 ft2/s)

L=500 m (152.4 ft),

by Colebrook and Darcy formulas, we have:

hf=4,442.73 m (1,354.14 ft)

But, by Spirax Sarco formula:

hf=26.4 m (8.05 ft)

Anything is wrong.

Can you tell me?

Regards

Luiz