Strain age embrittlement
Strain age embrittlement
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Has anyone experience strain-age embrittlement on thick plates (3" (75mm)or greater) in the HAZ? No cold working was done on our plates, so it would all have to come from the welding. We are trying to determine if this is a possible cause of low HAZ tougness values for some testing we are currently doing to qualify some base metal at high and low heat input, and we only have the low values at the low heat input, which is reverse of most experiences.
Thanks.
Thanks.
RE: Strain age embrittlement
RE: Strain age embrittlement
Maui
RE: Strain age embrittlement
The plates are cast material (rules out rolling at the mill) with the following composition:
C = .072
Mn = 1.05
Si = .35
P = .005
S <.001
Mo = .21
Cr = .20
Ni = 1.16
Al = .008
V = .005
Cu = .17
Ti = .004
N = 62 ppm
O = 46 ppm
They are normalized to reduce segregation, then austenitized, quanched and tempered.
To qualify the plate, we have to do CTOD tests at 14F (-10C) in the coarse grain HAZ and the etched HAZ boundary (border between the sub-critical and inter-critical HAZ) and get .015" minimum value. This is our first time trying to qualify material. The first test we did we ended up with Martensite islands, so we dropped the carbon and added a little more Mn and Ni to make up the hardenablity. The current test was evaluated up to 1000x and the HAZ is all ferrite with a little bit of second phase that the metallurgist said was either pearlite or bainite. He said that microsturturally, under an optical microscope, there was nothing out of the ordinary as compared to CTOD tests that pass. We also added a little Ti to help produce Ti nitrides, but we didn't get as much as we wanted. So on this current heat of material, we have good results at both locations in the high heat input test, and bad results in the low heat input test at both locations. Evaluations of the coarse grain specimens from the low heat input test seem to indicate that the weld metal may have been involved with the lower values, but nothing I have found can explain the low values in the low heat input test sub critical/inter critical test area except for strain ageing, since that should be the location affected most by that phenomena. Coupled with the fact that the Ti content was lower than we wanted, could have produced free nitrogen, which promotes strain-age embrittlement.
We also just got a hardness scan report done in HV 1kg. Weld metal was: 245, 231, 222, HAZ was: (proceeding from fusion line to base metal) 320, 260, 255, 240, 210, 190, 190. Base metal was: 208, 201, 208
Also, no PWHT was done, nor allowed.
The plates have to be fully restrained to prevent angular distortion. Joint is a single bevel. The qualification specifications limit heat input to 1kJ/mm, and 212F (100C) max interpass temperature. Welding is done with FCAW using stringer beads only. Welding material is 1% Ni to match base metal strength and toughness ideally.
RE: Strain age embrittlement
Is that low interpass temp. a requirement because of distortion? If you can get past that big hurdle, you might be able to preheat the steel up to where it should be, ~250 deg F or higher. That will help avoid any bainite/mart. formation which you must do since you can't PWHT.
Ti also hurts (raises) the brittle/duct. trans. temp., again in pearlitic steel, but you don't have much.
I'd hate to have your requirements on something I was doing-sounds like a real torture test!
RE: Strain age embrittlement
RE: Strain age embrittlement
Is preheat rigorously being checked if the fill is stopped partway and then restarted the next day?
Presume interpass is being allowed to drift as close as possible to max allowed.
If you used 80C preheat SMAW 1KJ/mm, then bead on plate hardness should be about 301HV with 60%Martensite. Since you found 320, your probably using a little lower preheat and what your getting is inadequate interpass tempering at bead to bead overlap sites along the FL. Using smaller bead size would allow more interpass temepring which is what is needed here I think to get the FL toughness up.
Check out
http://member.nifty.ne.jp/yurioka/p03/p03.html
Also note type of CTOD specimen configuration will influence test result with compact tension having the highest restraint and so yielding the lowest CTOD value.
RE: Strain age embrittlement
Using your link to find N. Yurioka's interactive site
'Weldability Calculations' rated a star.
http://member.nifty.ne.jp/yurioka/exp.html
Contents:
Calculation of carbon equivalents and transformation temperatures
Welding Condition Input and Calculation of Thermal History.
Estimation of maximum HAZ hardness
Determination of Necessary Preheat Temperature
RE: Strain age embrittlement
We did 3 CVN tests for each condition on the material question and these are the results at -40F:
No Strain & No Age:
226, 151, & 143 ft-lb
(173 ft-lb average)
Strained 5% & No Age:
32, 154, & 105 ft-lb
(97 ft-lb average)
Strained 5% & Aged at 450F for 2 hours:
28, 43, & 9 ft-lb
(26 ft-lb average)
I also found your link informative. I got a 311HV5 calculation with 67% martensite. Does the page list a range of compositions that it is good for. This alloy was particularly chosen so that we wouldn't get any martensite in the HAZ, and the HAZ has recently been examined up to 1000x optically, and the metallurgist doing the work said it was all ferrite and bainite. I can't recall off the top of my head, but what is the maximum hardness from baininte? Obviously, the 320HV isn't from ferrite.
RE: Strain age embrittlement
RE: Strain age embrittlement
As far as Grampi1's comments on reducing heat input to help with tempering of previous passes, on our 4" thick plate, I would worry about fusion defect if the heat input was lowered much further. Also, the high heat input tests (3.5kJ/mm as opposed to 1kJ/mm for the low heat input test) was sucessfull on this composition. The welding was not stopped before completion due to schedule, but the plate was checked along its length with a calibrated contact pyrometer.
RE: Strain age embrittlement
Whereas grain size affects toughness properties, have you considered a fine grain melting practice for this material? Fine grain melting is most often achieved by adding > .02% Al, .03-.04% V or > .015% Nb or combinations thereof. Austenitizing at normalizing temperatures prior to quenching & tempering is also recommended, assuming that you may have austenitized at a lower temperature.