Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
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Before the three pad-mounted transformers were energized, contractor performed secondary injection on T5 CT to check accuracy of meters. All results are good.
After energizing the high side of the transformers, there is no reading on the meter. I was expecting some no-load current reading but all phases are zero Amps.
1. I've checked the LBS on the transformer and nothing is isolated
2. Fuses are intact
3. Ratio settings are correct
What else could it be?
Before the three pad-mounted transformers were energized, contractor performed secondary injection on T5 CT to check accuracy of meters. All results are good.
After energizing the high side of the transformers, there is no reading on the meter. I was expecting some no-load current reading but all phases are zero Amps.
1. I've checked the LBS on the transformer and nothing is isolated
2. Fuses are intact
3. Ratio settings are correct
What else could it be?
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
The CT primary rating is 630A. I don't think the CT can transform such low current and also don't think the meter can read (whatever the CT transforms) properly. The CT and meter errors are supposed to be large when the current is below 25% of the rated current.
R Raghunath
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
Example
https://www.midwestcurrent.com/products/ct-series-...
Are the current transformers metering grade CT's or protection grade.
Metering grade might show accurate current, but it might be to low for your meter to indicate. For protection grade trying to measure a small current that falls inside the error band is suspect.
See this link for details regarding the differences, and why the two types exist and why they are not interchangeable.
https://electengmaterials.com/difference-between-m...
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
But If meters do not show any current during loading condition, then you need to check for bad connection of CTs or meters.
Thank you.
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
When one this sentence into the German to translate wanted, would one the fact exploit, that the word order and the punctuation already with the German conventions agree.
-- Douglas Hofstadter, Jan 1982
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
1. T-5 has 2 cores, one of them is 630/1A , Cl 0.2 15VA. This is the metering/measuring CT. Ensure that the ampere meter is connected to this CT.
2. Assuming that 3 secondary open-circuit trafo with total no-load current of 0.9A, the CT output current = 0.9A/630A x 1A =1.42mA, or 0.142% of 630A. With is extremely low current, even a Cl 0.2 CT is NOT expected to perform within the tolerance.
3. Info: a) usual measuring range 5-120%.
b) see IEC 660044-1 for further details.
4. Check when any one of the trafo is loaded. If still reads 0A, a thorough check on a) open circuit/high contact resistance along the line b) shorting links not removed on the terminal blocks after the injection tests; c) the meter is open circuit/faulty.
Che Kuan Yau (Singapore)
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
Besides that, CT's are transformers, and have a minimum voltage to fully excite the core.
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
It is a bit unusual since we have several BESS projects and this is the first time that we had "zero" no-load current. All equipment specs are identical for each project, even the distance of the transformers to the MVSG.
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
The true RMS needs a bit more current to display anything compared to the "raw" measurements.
Also in addition to different Zero deadbands in different devices and firmware version - ZeroDB can sometimes a setting in the device - worth checking.
If you have the equipment, I'd recommend using a sensitive tong ammeter to measure the current going in to the device from the CT secondary.
Verify what is being measured on the tong ammeter is what you would expect. If it isn't, then there might be a wiring problem.
If that all looks OK, then inject that measured value into a spare device with the same settings and see how it displays.
if it is showing zero, raise the current until it displays, then look in the settings/manuals etc for a match.
Checks of measurements without load can often produce misleading results.
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
When one this sentence into the German to translate wanted, would one the fact exploit, that the word order and the punctuation already with the German conventions agree.
-- Douglas Hofstadter, Jan 1982
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
Then comes the long explanation that not all unbalance is zero sequence.
RE: Meter shows current values during CT secondary injection but zero after energization
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