Interpretation/ Abbreviations
Interpretation/ Abbreviations
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Hello All,
I'm looking through a couple of ENG DD from an Aircraft and I cam across an unusually symbol that I'm not to fond with. could you assist me in the understanding of the symbol and why its called out?

I'm looking through a couple of ENG DD from an Aircraft and I cam across an unusually symbol that I'm not to fond with. could you assist me in the understanding of the symbol and why its called out?


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Whats an ENG DD? Engineering Detailed Drawing?
Huub
- You never get what you expect, you only get what you inspect.
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and thanks for the assistance. @Xl83NL
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Regards,
Mike
The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand
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best,
Jay.
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It is dubious practice to leave out the fillet dimension.
Also, the comment at the end of the weld symbol should contain the code for the Detailed Weld Procedure.
The weld symbol that you have there, provides incomplete/ambiguous information. Welding to a pressure hull, with only that information, is potentially dangerous.
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They've already made revisions to the weld symbol and it's still wrong.
-Christine
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The weld symbol tail is quite commonly used for many types of notes, processes or procedures, and typical (typ) is regularly used but is kind of redundant if used on every symbol.
A double sided fillet weld can still be applicable with weld all round, when the two sides of the weld do not connect.
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Regarding the fillet weld without size, please refer to AWS A2.4, 6.12.6 and 8.1.3.
Information on the weld tail notes can also be found in the above reference. All the same types of provisions in AS 1101.3, pretty standard.
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Yes, the fillet weld should be welded around the joined sides.
your reference from AWS helped not only with subject question but more.
Again, thank you All for your Assistance.
Kindest regards,
Jay
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The point I am trying to make is IMHO it should be either fillet weld welded both sides or fillet weld welded all around - not both.
6.11.1 shows a single fillet welded all around.
Figures 6.4 (B) & (C) clearly show fillet weld welded all around.
There are no examples in AWS 2.4 where it shows fillet weld welded both sides and all around.
The only one I can think of where it might be applicable (we cannot tell without more info from OP) is eg. a large square box welded to a plate.
Fillet welded inside and outside the box.
Then you would have the fillet weld welded both sides symbol and the weld all around symbol.
Looking at what we can see of the drawing I do not think that is applicable here.
Hope you can understand what I am trying to say
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I agree with you and Christine74, that for the vast majority of cases a single fillet welded all round is usually suitable. The intent was to note that under some circumstances double welded all round is also applicable (like in your example). Plate weldments can lead to less typical arrangements where these configurations may occur more regularly, and the guidance in Annex D is useful here.
IMO the specific technical accuracy of a weld detail is less important than the fabricator being able to understand the design intent correctly.