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Bearing retaining nut mystery

Bearing retaining nut mystery

Bearing retaining nut mystery

(OP)
We are refurbishing an old Wheelabrator vibratory finisher. Having a problem with the locknut for the bearings. Shaft is 1.562 , 18tpi. This should be a N08 as far as I can tell.

Problem is N08 won't fit. Will barely start on the thread and cannot get more than a 1/4 turn on it.

No burrs, thread looks good.

Any ideas what could be wrong? Is it possible a different thread form? Standard thread gauge seems to fit well.
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RE: Bearing retaining nut mystery

I get this from time to time. Maybe the nut isn't round? I have used lapping compound on the threads and run the nut back and forth until it rotates freely. I would probably use ~280 grit for this job. If it's working you'll notice the nut can be advanced further after every so many strokes.

M16-1.5 is the closest metric thread form. Metric threads typically have pointed peaks and rounded troughs. Standard thread forms are pointed on the peak and trough.

RE: Bearing retaining nut mystery

Is this the replacement that doesn't fit?

RE: Bearing retaining nut mystery

(OP)
Yes the replacement nut does not fit. Unfortunately we lost track of the original nut.

I don't think the nut will go on far enough to try lapping. After reading this I think running a hone through the nut to flatten the thread might not be a bad idea. That would explain what is happening.

We tried the metric version and actually can get a few turns on the metric.

I hated to spend the $$ but I purchased a thread chaser for the shaft. I will try honing the nut first.

RE: Bearing retaining nut mystery

I'd get some thread wires to check the shaft Pitch Ø.
Fowler 52-485-048-.0 29 bux on Amazon. There ae some cheaper.

Some machine shops pride themselves on cutting shaft threads to fit a provided nut real snug.
Mistakenly, in my view.

Fasteners too close to the tightest pitch diameters have no tolerance for errors in thread pitch and runout and etc.

RE: Bearing retaining nut mystery

(OP)
I took a combination approach. Looking at the shaft with a magnifier I could see the bottom of the threads was more or less flat. Did the best I could to measure the actual minor diameter then opened the nut to match with about .002 clearance. Was still tight but at least I could get a few turns on it so I went the lapping route.

Problem solved :)

Thanks everyone!

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