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Determine relative positioning of objects in a confined underwater environment (small tank of water)

Determine relative positioning of objects in a confined underwater environment (small tank of water)

Determine relative positioning of objects in a confined underwater environment (small tank of water)

I am designing a system that will allow me to take measurements of ultrasonic sound waves with an Onda hydrophone in an underwater environment. The ultrasonic transducer will be inside a water meter. The hydrophone will be mounted to a 3D gantry system allowing me to move it precisely around the portion of the water meter where the sound waves are localized. My current plan is to mount the water meter to the frame of the gantry system. But my question to you guys and gals is how do I determine the relative position of the hydrophone to the water meter? My idea initially is to use some sort of fudicial markings on the meter to indicate where features are located on the meter. How do I sense/measure my postion relative to those fudicial markings in an underwater environment?

RE: Determine relative positioning of objects in a confined underwater environment (small tank of water)

Not clear what you are describing - you say the transducer is mounted inside a water meter (I'm envisioning a water flow/totalizer meter like is connected to my house, i.e. something about the size of breadbox or smaller), and then you say a hydrophone (same as transducer?) is mounted on a 3d gantry that moves around the water meter, then you say (3rd sentence) you are mounting the water meter to the frame of the gantry...which I think you mean the gantry is attached to the wall of the water meter?

Maybe a sketch would clear things up?

Bottom line is - if I'm reading your mind correctly - you want to move a hydrophone around inside the case of something bigger, and know where the phone is relative to the bigger case. My answer would be to measure where the gantry moves relative to its mounting points, and then to also know where the gantry mounting points are relative to the case where it gets mounted. Presumably you will send a signal, or count revolutions of a stepper motor or similar actuator that moves the 3d gantry, and would know from those signals and your measurements where the hydrophone is subsequently located. Doing all of the setup work on a lab bench, where you could directly measure and calibrate your gantry control/signal systems might help a lot too.

RE: Determine relative positioning of objects in a confined underwater environment (small tank of water)

Are both the hydrophone and the "water meter" mounted on the frame ? ... can't be ??

We're talking small distances, right ? I like the idea of stepper motors to control to the position of both sensors, like two sets of x- and y- axes. Else maybe something like a camera focus ?

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