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A mis-named forum!

A mis-named forum!

A mis-named forum!

What CERTAINLY must have been called out by now is the complete disconnect between "Electrical code issues" and the IEEE. Having been a member of the IEEE, the IAEI, the IBEW, and eng-tips for what I would consider various long times, I can say and will defend (if need be) that the the IEEE is primarily intersted in SCIENCE, and does produce some STANDARDS. The IBEW is a labor union. The IAEI is a bunch of electrical inspectors, whose interest is in the enforcement of the document produced by the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) known as NFPA 70, or the National Electrical Code. The NFPA70 is a commercial and political document, and the NFPA seeks it's adoption by all states and municipalities in the US and beyond. New editions are produced on a 3 year cycle.


THE IEEE PRODUCES NO "ELECTRICAL CODE" used by legislators (unfortunately) or even organizations like the NFPA.

IEEE documents are produced by the research and scientific work of it's members and non-members, mostly working in educational institutions. IEEE documents tell us about how things actually work and behave, and how electricity can be measured, used and controlled or manipulated.


(Me,,,wrong? ...aw, just fine-tuning my sarcasm!)

RE: A mis-named forum!

A number of states adopt the National Electrical Safety Code, and I believe that is written and published by the IEEE, but of course, when people see electrical code, they most often think of the National Electrical Code written and published by the NFPA.

RE: A mis-named forum!

National Fire Protection Association (aka NFPA) is tasked with writing and developing the National Electrical Code (NEC, in the US) and several other "standards".

NFPA 70 - the National Electrical Code
NFPA 70A - the National Electrical Code for 1- and 2-family dwellings
NFPA 70B - Standard for Electrical Equipment Maintenance
NFPA 70E - Standard for Electrical Safety in the Workplace

Plus another 416 standards. NFPA standards are modified on a 3-year cycle from public inputs (PIs).

Some of the technical content within the NEC (in its various forms) is taken from standards (and recommended practices, and guides) written by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE). CODES are not written by the IEEE or International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC), for that matter.

Converting energy to motion for more than half a century

RE: A mis-named forum!

IEEE C2, The National Electrical Safety Code is most definitely written by committees put together by IEEE. The connection with NFPA is they work together to minimize any overlap and ensure consistency where overlap continues to exist.NESC

RE: A mis-named forum!

IEEE 693 concerns the seismic design of substations including transformers. The California PUC requires that transformers are able to operate during an earthquake and continue operation. The document does not consider degradation of the insulation and what condition the insulation is when the seismic event occurs. The certification of the transformer conformance to this issue is to be done by either a civil, structural or mechnical engineer. In most cases these disciplines do not review the construction of the coil windings and whether it has the proper compression in the coil stack columns assembly when an earthquake occurs. This is an issue that the substation committee is addressing currently.

RE: A mis-named forum!

IEEE 45 "Recommended Practice for Electric Installations on Shipboard" is incorporated into Coast Guard regulations.


46CFR175.6(g)(1) Standard 45–1977, Recommended Practice for Electrical Installations on Shipboard (“IEEE 45–1977”), IBR approved for § 183.340(o).

National Electric Safety Code is incorporated into several federal regulations. This is one of them.
7CFR1724 Electric Engineering, Architectural Services and Design Policies and Procedures 1
7CFR1724.1 – 1724.99 Subpart E Electric System Design

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