Triangular Window Opening in Dormer
Triangular Window Opening in Dormer
(OP)
A client wants to use triangular windows in a dormer and sent the photos below as an example. The problem is, the ridge isn't direclty supported. Traditional framing rules are that you either need to support the ridge or tie the rafters (if it can't spread, it can't come down). However, I want to at least poke a litter deeper, as we all know, wood structures are fairly redundant. So what is holding this example up:
- As this ridge displaces downward, it will need to push against the roof diaphragm. So the roof diaphragm can resist the thrust of the rafters at the valley portion.
- The wood sheathing. First acting as a cantilever beam (in-plane bending) to help carry the thrust load from the rafters not in the valley back to the roof diaphragm.
- The wood sheathing. Second as a folder plate (out of plane bending of the composite sheathing-rafter member). Essentially the roof wants to act like a folder plate spanning between dormer walls.
- In the framing photo there looks to be a lot of nails in the single tie at the 2nd set of dormer roof rafters. Maybe this is an attempt at some sort of tie at that end.
- Do any of these factors sell you on putting your name behind this?
- You think it's even possible to model these effects?
- Am I missing something?
RE: Triangular Window Opening in Dormer
From a forensic perspective i think you're right, but if we can't reliably quantify it we can't say it meets code reliably standards.
RE: Triangular Window Opening in Dormer
The internal bracing shown in the photos doesn't look to me like it would be sufficiently stiff to guarantee load transfer into the dormer walls. Which themselves are partially cantilevered above the roof diaphragm.. Man the more you think about it the more there is going on.
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Might still get back to this at some point.
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