Resin properties following a cure
Resin properties following a cure
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Does anyone know of an acceptable test for evaluating resin properties of a laminate after a cure? I was thinking of probably using ASTM D2344 (short beam, interlaminar shear) but my problem is that the laminate has a cured ply thickness of only .025 inches. This is well below the parameters required for this type of test.
RE: Resin properties following a cure
To check the cure? Tests such as Tg, DSC are probably better.
How many plies in your layup?
RE: Resin properties following a cure
RE: Resin properties following a cure
I would try to get a Tg measurement of the laminate. From CMH-17 Volume 1 Chapter 6 Rev H (can be purchased at sae.org):
Several different thermal analysis techniques are commonly used for extent of cure measurements in fiber-reinforced thermoset matrix composites. These include differential scanning calorimetry (DSC) or dynamic thermal analysis (DTA) to measure the extent of the residual curing exotherm and dynamic mechanical analysis (DMA) or thermomechanical analysis (TMA) to measure the glass transition temperature (Tg). Polymers which are only partially cured will have lower Tg than those with advanced cure, which will approach a maximum value if fully cured.
ASTM D7028 is the DMA Tg test method for composites.
But either test type requires removal of specimens from the part? is this feasible for your situation?
And didn't the hot bonder have a temperature recording unit connected to the TCs in the repair area?
What is the material and cure temp of the parent skin? what is the material and cure temp for the repair material?
RE: Resin properties following a cure
RE: Resin properties following a cure
This is a somewhat difficult problem to sort out; have dealt with similar ones before (one of the classics: browned areas due to halogen heat lamps being placed way too close to a part to speed up the cure of liquid shim because some idiot shop manager wanted to reduce cycle time; ugh, what a nightmare)
So is the part really "charred" or just slightly discolored?
It would help to know the part cure temp and repair cure temp. I'm assuming these are epoxy resins.
Some epoxy resins will change color even when exposed to temperatures below the original cure temp.
If the part saw a temperature above the original cure temp (essentially a "post-cure") then the Tg value should increase relative to baseline.
If the part is thin, then getting a interlaminar shear or compression test is difficult if not impossible; tension tests won't be useful to detect a resin change. What is the part thickness?
Is this a carbon fiber part or fiberglass part?
RE: Resin properties following a cure
The resin is cyanate ester so you can imagine what kind of an item i'm dealing with here.
The production cure temp is 350F with a 400F post cure.
The repair cure temp was 350F with no post cure - only 90 minutes.
The area around the repair looks to be on the verge of charring. I've worked with this material (slightly different flavor here) for quite a long time and with similar skin thicknesses, but i have never seen it "darken" like this before. It makes me wonder if there is some sort of operator/equipment error when using the portable hot-bonder.
The more more i think about this, the less confident i am about pulling off a successful short beam shear test. Nevertheless, i'm really interested developing an objective measure for quantifying % resin degradation between the production cure skin vs. the "darkened/charred" production cured skin surrounding the repair area caused by the repair blanket. Perhaps one could make a set of spectometer standards and correlate those to % degradation using short beam shear. I'm just spit-balling it, but i'm thinking i would be uncomfortable with anything that indicates a 10% or greater reduction in short beam shear capability. What do you think?
RE: Resin properties following a cure
RE: Resin properties following a cure
I think I would try to replicate the conditions on some separate flat laminate test panels, with thickness sufficient to get good test specimens.
Make and test a baseline panel.
Then expose another panel to an extra 350F cure for 90 minutes, check color and test.
Then expose another panel to a cure at 400F for 90 minutes, check color and test.
Repeat increasing extra cure temp by 50 degrees until you get the color to sort of match your part.
RE: Resin properties following a cure
RE: Resin properties following a cure