Falling tree load case
Falling tree load case
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We are occasionally asked to design bridges in forested areas where there is a possibility for a tree or large branch to fall onto the bridge (e.g. nature walks, golf courses, etc.).
It is not a load case that is spelled out in any of the bridge design codes (as far as I'm aware).
For bridges on the slender side, e.g. a steel pedestrian bridge, I would imagine that a falling tree could easily cause it to collapse.
But as for estimating the collision load from a tree? I'm not really sure at all.
In AS5100, there is a 'minimum restraint load' case, consisting of a 500 kN load (sometimes 200 kN for pedestrian bridges), which is applied horizontally at the bridge supports and is mainly intended to provide a minimum level of robustness to bridge and avoid the superstructure becoming dislodged. Possibly it would be a case of taking a similar nominal collision force and applying it at any point along the bridge, at any angle between horizontal and downward? For a pedestrian bridge with steel railings, I doubt that it would be feasible to design the railings to take such a load, so possibly it would just need to be applied to the main structural members?
Curious to hear people's thoughts/experience.
It is not a load case that is spelled out in any of the bridge design codes (as far as I'm aware).
For bridges on the slender side, e.g. a steel pedestrian bridge, I would imagine that a falling tree could easily cause it to collapse.
But as for estimating the collision load from a tree? I'm not really sure at all.
In AS5100, there is a 'minimum restraint load' case, consisting of a 500 kN load (sometimes 200 kN for pedestrian bridges), which is applied horizontally at the bridge supports and is mainly intended to provide a minimum level of robustness to bridge and avoid the superstructure becoming dislodged. Possibly it would be a case of taking a similar nominal collision force and applying it at any point along the bridge, at any angle between horizontal and downward? For a pedestrian bridge with steel railings, I doubt that it would be feasible to design the railings to take such a load, so possibly it would just need to be applied to the main structural members?
Curious to hear people's thoughts/experience.
RE: Falling tree load case
So then you need to mitigate against it and implement things like annual check on trees with overhanging branches or within a fall radius. Or closing it in period of v high winds / storms when in reality few people will be out so also reducing the risk.
Life is not without risk. The issue is whether the risk is sufficiently low to be acceptable.
This is often a 1 in a million risk per year of dying because of this unlikely event. Your difficulty will probably be finding reliable data on how many bridges a year are damaged by falling branches/trees especially in a forested area. Then how often would that event result in imbue or death of an individual.
A you say it is not a recognised load case and therfore not an engineering issue, but a risk issue. IMHO.
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RE: Falling tree load case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v64tsuhg2C0
You cannot design for the potential load, you might design for absorbing the amount of energy without collapse.
Per https://thetimberlandinvestor.com/how-much-does-a-... the weight of a tree might be 1-3 tons. Assuming that the CG is roughly 1/2 way up with summer foliage, then that represents, upper middle, 40 feet * 6000 pounds, but if there is a hill, that might add additional height. Figure 240,000 foot-lbf of energy that might be focused on a bridge element 18 inch wide or less (trunk diameter.)
I did see a bridge hit by a truck carrying a 40 foot long, 12 foot diameter, roughly 0.500 to 0.75 inch wall tube at 60 mph. It stopped the tube, the trailer and the tractor in under 24 inches, folding the bottom of the 2 foot deep, 10 foot wide, section of the I-Beam about 45 degrees. The bridge survived absorbing that amount of energy. I think the DOT hired some guys with torches to bend it back.
RE: Falling tree load case
Still think its a fairly pointless exercise as it it will not be economic to design for such an extreme event, especially for passenger bridges.
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