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# Winch Problem

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## Winch Problem

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Hello All,

I am just trying to understand the FBD of this winch design I am working on. Attached is a pretty rough sketch but overall I am attaching a winch via 4 hex bolts and 4 nuts to a inch thick piece of wood.

What would the forces be at the bolts themselves? I know the force direction for the winch (disregard arrow in drawing) just looking for some insight on the bolts securing the winch.

Cheers,
LR

### RE: Winch Problem

The winch line may be scaled as a vector, tangent to the drum, representing the line tension.
The point of contact of the tangent will be one corner of a triangle.
The rear bolt and the forward lower edge of the base will be the other two corners of a triangle.
I would solve the triangle assuming that the whole force acts on the back bolts.
That is the worst case and allows for deflection of the wooden base and or looseness of the forward bolts.
Both conditions may allow more strain on the rear bolts than may be shown by a rigorous solution of the division of forces between the front and rear bolts.
Do you want a rigorously correct answer, or a safe to build answer?

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### RE: Winch Problem

The force on the bolts depends on what the piece of wood is attached to. As shown in your drawing, there are no additional forces because the wood will follow the winch wherever it takes it.

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### RE: Winch Problem

ok, you need to read up on free body diagrams. These include all relevant forces ... You show the applied load only.

The fasteners react this load ... in shear (Fx) and tension/compression (Fy).
The shear should be obvious, the tension/compression is the reaction to the offset moment.
Yes, the bolts don't normally carry compression, but it is a easy typical analysis for a working engineer.
If you want "truth" then the offset moment is reacted by a couple, fasteners carry tension and the compression is carried by the fitting base, typically a triangular distribution is assumed, peaking at the opposite side of the fitting (away from the tension loads)

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