×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Contact US

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

IEC 60287-1-3:2002 Annex A - Calcuation of impedances

IEC 60287-1-3:2002 Annex A - Calcuation of impedances

IEC 60287-1-3:2002 Annex A - Calcuation of impedances

(OP)
Hi

I am struggling to calculate the impedances in Example 1, IEC 60287-1-3:2002 Annex A.

Anyone who knows how the reactances are calculated?



Thanks!

RE: IEC 60287-1-3:2002 Annex A - Calcuation of impedances

(OP)
Hi

Thanks a lot for your responses.

I still dont understand table A.1.

In the formula for Xi,k, the LN function is LN(di+1,k/di,k), how can i=1, k=1 be equal to R2R1 ie. 1000 and not 12.73?

Thanks

RE: IEC 60287-1-3:2002 Annex A - Calcuation of impedances

The author of the standard does not explain why the reactance is so calculated.
However, if we take other publication like EPRI EL-5036-V4 Appendix A
the voltage of A phase will be
EAn=Ia1(RA1+jXA1)+IA2(jXA1-A2)+IB1*(jXA1-B1)...+IA(RL+jXL) where:
RA1=A1conductor resistance
XA1=A1conductor self reactance=LA1*0.023/1000*(K'+LN(1/rc))
XA1-A2 =mutual reactance A1-A2=LA1*0.023/1000*(LN(1/DA1-A2))
rc= conductor radius[inches]
We can write (K'+LN(1/rc))=LN(1/α/rc) and if K’=0.25 (K'+LN(1/rc))= 0.687468
and (1/α/rc)=exp(0.687468)= 1.988674 and α=0.7788 for solid conductor.
For 127 wires then α*rc=32.8/2*0.776=12.73 mm.
For sheath-since it is not a stranded wires conductor no need α then- the distance will be 48/2=24
EA1n=IA1(RA1+jXA1)+IA2(jXA1-A2)+IB1*(jXA1-B1)...+IA(RL+jXL) for conductor A1
EA2n=IA2(RA2+jXA2)+IA1(jXA1-A2)+IB1*(jXA2-B1)...+IA(RL+jXL) for conductor A2
But EA1n=EA2n then EA1n-EA2n=0
0=IA1(RA1+jXA1-jXA1-A2)-IA2(RA2+jXA2-jXA1-A2)+IB1[(jXA1-B1)+j(XA2-B1)]....
(RA1+jXA1-jXA1-A2)=RA1+jK*LN(1/(α*rc)-jK*LN(1/DA1-A2)
if for i=1 and k=1 we put α*rc and for i=i+1=2 k=1 we put DA1-A2 then we get Xi,k=K*LN(DA1-A2/(α*rc))
then on pos.1 we get RA1+j*K*ln(1000/12.72) where K=2*ω/10^7.

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members! Already a Member? Login


Resources

Low-Volume Rapid Injection Molding With 3D Printed Molds
Learn methods and guidelines for using stereolithography (SLA) 3D printed molds in the injection molding process to lower costs and lead time. Discover how this hybrid manufacturing process enables on-demand mold fabrication to quickly produce small batches of thermoplastic parts. Download Now
Design for Additive Manufacturing (DfAM)
Examine how the principles of DfAM upend many of the long-standing rules around manufacturability - allowing engineers and designers to place a part’s function at the center of their design considerations. Download Now
Taking Control of Engineering Documents
This ebook covers tips for creating and managing workflows, security best practices and protection of intellectual property, Cloud vs. on-premise software solutions, CAD file management, compliance, and more. Download Now

Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close