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Manuals and instructions

Manuals and instructions

Manuals and instructions

(OP)
I like building stuff.
This past weekend I helped my son build his gazebo. It took 3 of us two full days. It didn't help that it was almost 100 deg outside.
It was purchased at Costco.
It's very nice, but dang what a PITA! The manual was terrible!
I believe the people that create manuals never see the actual products, or how it is assembled.
They make drawings and isometric/detail views that are weird angles or difficult to make sense of.
Here is the final product.

ctopher, CSWP
SolidWorks '19
ctophers home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Manuals and instructions

Looking nice. smile
Writing manuals are difficult, it could actually be the opposite as you describe too.
I have to think about that all the time at work it is very easy to jump over steps when you know how to do the job, because it is so obvious, and then it turns out it isn't as obvious for everybody else. LOL

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Manuals and instructions

(OP)
Thanks.
I write manuals here at work often.
Before completed, I always give it to assemblers to check/markup.
I also show views so there are no questions how parts go together.

ctopher, CSWP
SolidWorks '19
ctophers home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Manuals and instructions

To be fair to the Swedes, although everyone complains about Ikea manuals, I usually find them Ok. It's when you decide to do it a different way that it all goes a bit wrong. I once managed to build a bed which were the base was level, but the two ends were sloping as I had managed to cross the corner posts over.... My excuse that the parts were not labeled properly were ignored.

The question is did you end up with any spare bits....

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

RE: Manuals and instructions

Do you recall some of the early computer component manuals, and driver instructions? ponder

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Do you feel any better?

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RE: Manuals and instructions

bigsmile haha

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Manuals and instructions

(OP)
Every holes was filled, every screw/bolt/nut/washer used per each page of manual. Still had a lot of hardware left over. I think was on purpose in case some were lost or damaged.
The very last screw, the head snapped off. It was no big deal, was easily fixed.
There were a lot of things I would have designed better to help with assy. But, I'm sure they must have had a reason for it.

ctopher, CSWP
SolidWorks '19
ctophers home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Manuals and instructions

I have observed a trend towards the use of symbols and such in instructions to work around language barriers.

https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:pub:PUB400001:en

However, I find the symbols to be much more confusing. I could always search for a word I didn't understand. Googling a symbol is not so easy.

RE: Manuals and instructions

(OP)
Ya, symbols like that could have different meanings in different languages.

ctopher, CSWP
SolidWorks '19
ctophers home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Manuals and instructions

Why are they called gazebos?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Manuals and instructions

(OP)
haha. We saw other people buying them.
They are actually very nice once they are together.
At least 4 men are needed for heavy lifting, and quicker to install hardware....a million screws/bolts.

ctopher, CSWP
SolidWorks '19
ctophers home
SolidWorks Legion

RE: Manuals and instructions

We didn't build a gazebo, but last week we replaced our old wooden arbor over our Saint Francis foundation. This is the old one right after we installed it nine years ago:


July 2013 (Sony A65)

It had weathered severely and the ends of the uprights were starting to get funky (there were metal spikes that went into the ground to stabilize it, but the wooden end of the uprights still ended-up near the wet ground).

We replaced it with a plastic arbor that basically snapped together and was then held together in strategic locations with self-drilling/tapping screws. Instead of anchors, it used nesting sections that extended about 18 inches into the ground which we filled with gravel to stabilize the structure. We also hope that the vines will further fixate the frame to the wall:


May 2022 (Sony a6500)

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
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RE: Manuals and instructions

Red, I would answer you, but like many things, I don't know where the name came from. And most of us don't even know what the country of origin is.
It's just another garden thing that we all hang around, because it is out of the sun.

RE: Manuals and instructions

(OP)
John,
Very nice!

Red,
I don't know why they are called that.
Did a quick Google search, don't know if 100% correct, but seems correct:

"The name is an 18th-century joke word combining “gaze” with the Latin suffix ebo, meaning “I shall.”
As a structured form, it is as old as garden history: it is the “viewing pavilion” of the Chinese or
the summerhouse on the summit of a garden mount referred to by the 17th-century philosopher Francis Bacon."

ctopher, CSWP
SolidWorks '19
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