Heywood and CL Taylor both wrote good books with obvious titles that are widely available secondhand or as international editions.

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There is an early book by Ricardo available online for free. Title is something like "The High-Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
A fairly recent publication is "The Diesel Engine Handbook" by Baranescue and Challen.

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I can certainly recommend Ricardo as an intro for the novice. I read it during my undergraduate days and learned a lot.

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I think most want electric motors to be the future. So no need to learn about engines as an up coming engineer.

Yeah, at this point, study of internal combustion engines is fine as a hobby or perhaps short-term employment, but I wouldn't suggest it as a career; several auto manufacturers have already stopped development. We'll still need central power stations, and there are going to be some transportation applications that defy electric conversion for quite a while, but the demand for engineers and designers in that field is probably going down.

Yeah this is a hobby for me tbh, but i don't think manufacturers will throw off internal combustion engines, we will just don't use too much petrol in fuel formulas.

Also, thank you very much for your suggestions, aprecciate it :D

Manufactures will not be given a choice in the matter.

If that graph is right then we'll be needing a lot of powertrain engineers.

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Hmm. So, ignoring "net zero by 2050", the graph predicts total light vehicle sales in 2050 to be at 2012 levels. Stunning vision.

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I spent far too long on their website trying to figure out how they got that graph. If anybody knows I'd be fascinated. It is certainly vastly different to what the rest of the US government is telling us. Globally, yes I wouldn't mind betting that IC will be around for a long time, but the USA is, I would have thought, in the top few countries for EV adoption.

Kinda sorta true. Fascinating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car_use_by_... That's 2020 data

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the USA is, I would have thought, in the top few countries for EV adoption.

I assume that's mainly because the majority of EV's on the road in the US are marketed (and perceived by many) as status symbols, or at least as an exhibition of personal values if not "trendiness" (remember Segways?). I believe they are heavily subsidized as well, both at purchase, and via many free or subsidized charging opportunities, not to mention preferred parking.

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Ah but have you owned one?

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This is a great read if you're looking for an intro into engine design.

https://utahrails.net/pdf/EMD_567_History_and_Deve...

Not interested, not in any new car actually.

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz

The way I see it, if I buy a new new car I get some years of trouble free running and some leverage to get it fixed by the manufacturer. If I buy a secondhand modern era car then I am assuming that the previous owner got rid of a perfectly functional car. Well it might happen. If I buy a rather older secondhand but electronic car, I am buying something that almost certainly has 'unfixable' problems.

If, on the other hand, I buy an old, non electronic car, I can fix it.

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Yeah that's the worst disadvantage about adopting EV's, you need an electrical degree to fix one of those in case of the manufacturers doesn't invest on making them easy to fix

It could be an advantage, though. The bulk of the parts that make up the EV system are off the shelf components. Transistors, capacitors, diodses, etc... are not special made for these. Even the battery assemblies are built up from off the shelf 21650 cells.

Meanwhile, nearly every component on a modern engine is made just for that engine.

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Meanwhile, nearly every component on a modern engine is made just for that engine

Which, in a good design, will go 100's of thousands of miles or 10's of thousands of hours without replacement, excluding consumables such as belts and filters.

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But that doesn't matter, only that you can't fix it with random scrap from around the farm in the unlikely event that it does break.

Magnetic engines or motors would be fine if they followed some simple logic and made them more efficient. Similar to ICE engines, motor design has been stagnate since inception, yes a few little improvements here and there, but nothing all that breath taking.

So what do you suppose the efficiency of a typical EV motor is?

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I don't know, but let's hear from someone who does, but the well-to-wheel number please.

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Shhh, you're not allowed to ask that question.

I was responding to a post that suggested "Magnetic engines or motors" are not as efficient as they might be. Well-to-wheel is another topic.

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