×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Contact US

*
*
*
*

Thanks. We have received your request and will respond promptly.

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!
*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

thread337-493348

Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

(OP)
Does the NDS have any load provisions for using a dowel type fastener (nail, lag screw etc.) into the 1.5" wide face of a typical 2x4 stud? If so, what section is it in?

I do not see any mention of edge distance. We have a situation where we have to put multiple lags into a wall stud. Worried about splits in the future.

RE: Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

I'd start by looking at Tables 12.5.1C & 12.5.1E, depending on how the stud is loaded.

RE: Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

(OP)
The studs are vertical and 16" on center. A 2x12 ledger is being placed horizontally against the wall studs. The original construction facenailed (3) 16d common nails through the 2x12 into the 1.5" wide face of the wall stud to attach the ledger. The nails are not strong enough for the total load. Contractor is proposing to add (2) LedgerLok fasteners to the connection. The dead load is currently in the nails since we have not lifted the load off the original.

The concern is splitting the wood since the center distance is not 4d = .92" < .75" provided.

RE: Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

Most Ledger-Lok screws that I have seen are 3/16" diameter.
Their tag line is that they "replace" 3/8" lag screws... but I have mic'd them at 3/16"
I think an ICC report I have read lists them at .190" (seems close enough).
Commentary says 2.5D for edge distance so... I THINK they are ok.


RE: Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

ALSO - I realize the dead load is on the nails but I don't know if they will remember that. Seems like relative stiffnesses will dictate where the load goes.
Not saying one can't justify the load sharing that way but I have not heard of doing it (and have always thought that one could not do that).

Maybe it's OK. I'd be interested in seeing where that (load sharing between fasteners of different stiffnesses) is allowed.

RE: Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

Simpson has tables for this

RE: Nailing into the 1.5" wide face of a stud

Page 45 of this doc.

Link

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members! Already a Member? Login

Resources

Low-Volume Rapid Injection Molding With 3D Printed Molds
Learn methods and guidelines for using stereolithography (SLA) 3D printed molds in the injection molding process to lower costs and lead time. Discover how this hybrid manufacturing process enables on-demand mold fabrication to quickly produce small batches of thermoplastic parts. Download Now
Design for Additive Manufacturing (DfAM)
Examine how the principles of DfAM upend many of the long-standing rules around manufacturability - allowing engineers and designers to place a part’s function at the center of their design considerations. Download Now
Taking Control of Engineering Documents
This ebook covers tips for creating and managing workflows, security best practices and protection of intellectual property, Cloud vs. on-premise software solutions, CAD file management, compliance, and more. Download Now
Close Box

Join Eng-Tips® Today!

Join your peers on the Internet's largest technical engineering professional community.
It's easy to join and it's free.

Here's Why Members Love Eng-Tips Forums:

Register now while it's still free!

Already a member? Close this window and log in.

Join Us             Close