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Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)





I do not think that it will sink but it can "break or crack" I think it was LittleInch that mentioned it and I think you know too, the problems you get when the ground freezes and unfreezes and everything moves.
That's why they dig out and put a gravel bed in first when building new houses, with a whole foundation plate.

It is true that a nature stone "frame" foundation as you have everything also moves, but done right, its also very flexible as is wood so it can stand a lot whiteout "breaking" of course it gets a bit skewered from time to time but it doesn't sink so much from the pressure since it can move a bit here and there sideways to and not just downwards.
A cement plate is quite stiff.

Not saying one is better then the other but it is different in "function".

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
I also have a bit of an issue, since my SH is on plints, the ground is moraine with boulders and stone and stuff, not sure how far down bedrock is.

And this freezing and unfreezing every year makes everything move.
The house was built around 55 years ago.
From time to time it has been adjusted when the doors and windows can't be opened or closed and so on. smile
Some examples.



It's just done with a bottle jack or two and weighed in with a spirit leveler, putting some appropriate piece of wood in.
The wood sill is in good condition and will never rott for two reasons, one it's so airy the other is I am pretty shore it's full of creosote.

Now to the problem on the side of the house where the wood stove is the inner floor has cracked closes to the wall.



My mother claims that my father sade that nothing can be done about this.
This started around 10 years ago.
I think he made some effort to fix it because it looks like there was done some digging around one pillar.



Me myself have have just gone into ignore mode.
And I haven't really decided how much effort to put in to this.
I am quite sure it can be fixed by hosting that side up but I am not sure.
And if that can be done if I should rectify the pillars or put new one in in-between or just do it the old way with some pieces of wood. winky smile

BR A

PS. I am still in ignore mode but all this talk about foundations it started to pop up in my mind.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.



I had similar issues with my old barn

The way they would deal with that here would be to jack it up and stick more rocks under it.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Redsnake,

Background information: a friend of mine built a log cabin near Fairbanks back in the late 60's and lived in it for several years. He departed the area for awhile (i think 16-years) and returned in 2003. The cabin had sunk into the ground a little bit and needed to be elevated.

The ground was excavated around the cabin perimeter and a steel beam the length & width of the cabin installed - basically around the cabin base perimeter. Then he raised the cabin so piles could be installed. once the piles were installed, the cabin was lowered into place and shims were used for leveling the cabin. I do not believe any logs along the base were replaced.

a few years later, he had the cabin size increased by adding living space to the back end of the cabin. the same foundation was done for this added living space.

The cabin has since been sold, but it is still very nice little cabin.

Another situation: A co-worker lived in a home along the Chena river flood plain, south of Fairbanks, and the owner had the home elevated 8-feet above the current grade. Basically, using the same method. In July/August 2008, it rained so much in the area that a lot of properties flooded south of fairbanks. But not this home!

hope this helps and wish you good luck.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Just spoke to the brother in law he reckons they would sort it in a day here.

To be fair my barn wasn't sinking. The roof was rotten and the bottom 3 rows of logs sounded like a drum when you smacked them with a hammer. And were basically hollow.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Well I was thinking about using a steel beam to elevate that side and put the beam on some jack stands or similar mostly because then it would give me more time to work, if the work is extensive which it would be if I would to start digging out the old pillars, rectifying them or digging for new ones.

But I am not shore if putting down new pillars in-between is worth the effort, mainly because you need to dig up a lot and fill up with gravel where the pillars will be, to drain away the water so this freezing unfreezing want move things around so much.
And there is a lot of boulders and stone in the ground, and as soon you start digging them upp it gives more room for those who are still there to start moving around much more. ponder

Maybe just putting new ones in-between and having them on top of the ground is as good, as with Alistair's barn and just chiming the old ones, then the pressure on each pillar would be less. ponder

Just using bottle jacks chiming it up is of course faster then I only need to dig a bit to get the bottle jack in.

Forgot to mention that there is a cement box in the middle under the house in the kitchen with a hatch in the floor it's like a cold store pantry, it is that one that is like the center point that decides the level.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Well the last time I rectified the summerhouse I did that and changed the floor in the kitchen on one day (I was younger then).
While my mother was having a fit and my father was sitting and relaxing with a beer or two.
She had been nagging my father to fix the kitchen floor for years.
And I got tired of hearing about it, so finely I got enough and went and bought what was need and just went out there and started ripping the floor open.
And my mother was like, We can't do that now!
My answer, It's now or never.
Well my father and my uncle put in the new carpet in the day after, or new and new it had been standing in the shed for years since my mother bought it.
I get quite intense when I get started, it's just that nowadays the starting distance is quite long. winky smile
Maybe you could send your brother in-law over, so then it will be fixed in no time. lol

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
It looks like the barn has three "rooms" sections are you planing on making the concrete floor all over?
The part to the left seems to have a raised floor.

BR A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

its getting a solid floor put down and plain rectangular barn 18 meters by 6 meter posts every 3 meters. That whole lot has been scrapped. There is still wood left but i am not going to use it. Which the locals are upset about but its just way to much work to try and use it. i can abasically get a kit log barn delivered and throw it up in two weeks roofed electrics etc. If i tried to recycle that it would take months of nonsense and I would have a crap barn to boot.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
So are you planning on just using it as a "garage" ?

I will take the spirit leveler and try to find out where and how much the SH is tilting get a sense of how much needing to done.

I think what might have happened is that there was a wood stove installed many years ago and it wasn't there at the beginning.
And it probable didn't weigh less then the new one, I remembered they recommended supporting the floor if it wasn't a whole foundation floor.
So I thought that I would try to se how the underside of the floor looks like, but it isn't easy since it's so tight on that side of the house.
Maybe putting in some extra support there and at the same time rectifying it, in same way.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Just fire wood, bit of a workshop, trailers and tractor. No feed or anything like that

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Well I guess that, that is what all old farmboys needs.
A tool shed, one and a half times the size of my appartement. tongue

Have you fixed all your electrical power station security issues then?

/A



“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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Alistair: If dry-rot (aka brown rot) then the damage has likely been done... take a gander at the attached.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Well to be honest it could be smaller but then I couldn't fit 42 solar panels on the roof....

And we have a 750mm wide 3 phase wood plane. And that will let us do 6meter lengths

Might cut it down to 15 meters though we shall see when I measure it out.

It's definitely rotted due all the grass etc growing round it. Will give it a 300 buffer of concrete all the way round it.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
What kind of wood is it?

In the old days they always chose bottom syll logs looking like in the picture at left.
They are like mold and damp protected from the inside out.



Good quality wood for things like that isn't easy come by today here, since the forests are "to well" managed the trees grow to fast.
And you need to dry them really slowly so they don't splinter.

I get that everything today should go fast and be relatively "cheap" and that time is money.
But I think that some of the old trades and knowledges are still pretty amazing.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I am going to make it a post build using composite wood posts. Kiln dried then pressure glued together.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Hmm I am not sure what that exactly means/is?
In SE we use a lot "rod glued wooden beams" it makes them keep straight and they are very light compared with the load they can take, much better then steel beams when it comes to fires as well.
But for a buildings like that we would just use ordinary 2 by 4 (inch) wood pine timber for the standing beams in the walls, today I think they use mm . winky smile

"rod glued wooden beams" they may look like this.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Yep that's the ones you get 200mm square posts and beams. Then you machine 50mm slots down the sides and slide the logs down with a tongue on the end 3 meters between posts.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Like this?



I thought that 3 meters was long in-between the poles (for snow load) but if the wall is with "logs" it's different.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I am going for a beam and post structure and the log walls won't be taking any load.

And yes that's the idea with the tongues. If you get a rotten log you can just cut it out and fit another one. And if a post goes there is enough redundancy you can just unpin it at the top and replace it without taking the roof off.

To be honest I don't know a lot about it. The company that will make it for me have been running for 20 years and do quiet a bit of work in Norway and Sweden. They have a factory near Tartu and build you your structure there and then send it to you on a lorry. And then you put it together yourself. Its not a novel design I have invented.

They cut it all with CNC mills. They reckon that in 20 years time if a post goes rotten i will just have to tell them its number on the plan and 30 mins later they can have a new one ready to be picked up as they save all the CNC production programs. We shall see....

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Well here residential house here are built for heavy snow loads 294 kg/m3, the winter 2017-2018 there was a lot of snow.
Many outbuildings and barns caved in they are not always built by the same standard.
Usually what happens is that the snow pressure, pressure the walls outwards so the roof caves in, or they get more snow on ones side then the other so they falls over to the side.

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Must admit they tend to do everything by gravity here as well.

I am going to put tensions wires down onto the floor on the corners. Which they don't really understand why..

The ones here fall down regularly as well.

It's mainly because they are open sided boxes without any cross bracing to stop rotations.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
I did look at the short and one of the long sides of the wall and used a 1,5 meter spirit leveler but it wasn't easy to use it since it was so tight and just using it on the outside panel didn't really give much informations about anything, it seemed to be very much in level?
Can't really find out what the problem is, it isn't obvious anyway.

I think the problem here with animal barns are that they usually have higher walls then a normal one level residential house, but roof angel isn't so steep.

Log houses that have carrying walls with interlocked corners they can take almost anything.

My guest house, okey it's small but even a larger one whit the same construction could take almost anything.
Maybe even the spruce standing behind it falling over it, I hope I never have to find out though.






“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

interlocking logs are self bracing. Until the ends of the logs rot and fall off like mine did and then your screwed.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

bit of a surprise today. The wife put the old logs on facebook market place.

Within an hour we have 4 people going to see them. And they are talking a few thousand to buy them.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
smile Well it isn't easy to come by good quality logs these days. tongue
Hope she gets them sold at a good price. thumbsup2
Then you can get a wood fired wooden hot tub as well. bigsmile

/A

PS. Recycling is good.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Already got one just it leaks like a sieve and I want nothing to do with it. In fact its sitting in my drive annoying me.

Just debating if I should use foam foundation tiles for the barn foundations. They come in sections and you just make them up to shape and then stick Re bar in and fill it.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Foam foundation tiles. ponder
Can't get a hit on anything particular with that, seems it can be both this and that..

Well having it in the drive doesn't seem to be a good place. winky smile

/A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Much easier to read på Svenska.. and for you in English. ha ha my Estiska isn't very good.

https://www.benders.se/en-gb/benders/article-archi...

At first glance it seems a bit overkill for a barn without heating.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

See how much it costs

Just need a box with a raised bit in the middle and grid.

I would make the same type of thing with wood. And then have to strip the wood out and glue foam to the outside of it.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
So decided for any solution for the foundation?
The Russian winter is coming. winky smile
It's almost here. sad snow, snow..

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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Dug and just needs outside belt trench dug.

Have all the metal and foam and concrete boys are ready for 9th of Nov

Borrowing some straw bails to put on top of it for 4 days under plastic

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Sounds like you have everything under control. smile
I hope Jack Frost is with you too.

I did put the last bits and pieces away at the summerhouse today and turned of the electrics, haven't taken the keys home yet though not sure my mother is going there or not.
There was this dead tree at the drive in, I have been thinking I should cut it down, not so thick but quite long.
But now the wind has done it for me.
It had broken off 4 meters up and the part that was still standing I managed to push to the ground, I did use the elephant the technique. lol
I saw it when I was leaving so I didn't bother going back for the saw.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

bales covering it should work as its exothermic and the ground is still warm.

Pour in the morning while the sun is out they say they can cut contraction groves 4 hours after the last pour. So after they do that I will stick the bales over it and plastic which will keep the humidity up. Not that its a worry here just now pissing with rain. The exothermic reaction under the bales I reckon there will be no chance of it freezing even if it starts snowing overnight.


RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

About 30 years back I did a concrete foundation (basement) that was to be the living space, and the owner purchased a century old timber framed bar and had it erected on top of the foundation. It was strictly decorative and the living space was in the 'basement'. There were a couple of code issues to deal with regarding living in the basement, but all went well. The barn and siding were transferred from a site about 100 miles away.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Yes I think you are right, at least with enough straw bales.
It has happened ones or twice that I haven't picked my carrots in time and there is a 2-3 cm earth that is frozen even that isolates.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
It has become quite common here to buy a house and then move it for many reasons.
If you can't afford to build or buy one then it's cheaper to buy a house in some of the grid place and move it instead, it's cheaper and quicker.
Some do it just because they like the house but not the location, if it is old and special.
And if it is going to be torn down you can a good price and the one that owns it gets rid of it.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Under that blue plastic is the none rotten wood from old barn.

Every one saying sell it. I say crack on. 4 months and it's still there. If it's still there next mark it will turned into fire wood

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Just have to be very careful with Brown Rot...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I am putting a 2 layer ring of 5 MPA concrete blocks round the base and then the wood structure on top of that with 250mm border round them before the ground. Will be running the robot mower right up to the edge all the way round.

Its the bottom 3 rows of logs which go rotten which is the height the weeds grass etc get to.

To be honest I don't know why the locals are making such a fuss about the old barn wood. Its 100 years old. I would burn it in my fire pit in the garden.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
So did you go for light concrete blocks or ordinary?

>To be honest I don't know why the locals are making such a fuss about the old barn wood. Its 100 years old. I would burn it in my fire pit in the garden.

It is the history of it, and it's good reuse of material good for the environment. winky smile
Also probably a bit of the past when you don't have the resources you reuse as much as you can, not as today when you throw things away after using it a couple of times and buy new things because the color isn't right or it's not in stile just because you can.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Solid 5 MPA blocks, which is over what they need to be. You only need them if you go over 2 storeys building houses the normal ones are 3 MPA.

But as the building is going to be strapped to them with tension wires because the wooden bit is only meant to be gravity held down I couldn't be bothered working it out if there was an issue.

As you know in this area gravity held down buildings have a tendency to rotate off what ever they are sitting on.

So I am going to put in tension wires from the top beams down to the opposite corner blocks so if it wants to rotate it will have to lift the slab. I will also do it laterally as well along the long side but not the full length mainly incase some idiot hits it with a tractor and pushes it in that direction. If I am doing the two ends its no problem doing another 4 wires for that axis as well. The locals don't seem to understand that a post structure is different to a solid long wall structure in regards to how it can move and rotate. I suspect it will be the usual arguments and then in 5 years time they will all be doing it.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
I am sure the wires are good for forces coming from the roof as uneven snow loads.
But if Martin is trying to knock it over with the tractor from the side I am not sure it will work, the wires can stand tension, but if you push them they will "collapse".
In that way wood strives are better they can take both tension and pressure.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Aye but that's why you have 8 two on each wall tensioning in opposite directions against each other all of them with a vertical vector to hold it down so you include the floor to complete your box. Don't need compressive bracers only tension.

Wires are easy just a raw expansion ring bolt in the concrete and a ring bolt through the beam. Then 10mm wire with torsion tensioning buckle tighten it until you can here it hum when you smack it with a hammer.

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(OP)
So have you goten started?
Or are you still contemplating your options. winky smile
Not sure how the weather are at your end but here it feels like it's been fog and rain for one and a half month. sad
Maybe not the worst weather for cement casting, but dead boring...... sad

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.



Thursday doing the pour have straw bales for insulation

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
How did they get the edges so "sharp"?
First dig out and then pack the gravel and then dig out around it?
Okey the corners are a bit hmm.. but still I would not had thought it would have kept it's shape.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Yep

They normally only do belt foundations here then add floor later So this is the first monopour slab one they have done.

I got them to dig out 400mm of pit 15.5x6m then we could bucket load the gravel in and spread flat which took a day. Then a ditch digger with rotating bucket spent 3 hours doing the outside ditch. Outside wood will go in tomorrow which I managed to get for only 200 euro it had been sitting outside for 3 years and is stained to hell and the guy was glad to get it out of the yard.

There has been a few farmers turned up to look at it. one of them is talking about taking his old barn down and doing the same thing and putting it back up again. Its 5000 euro plus labour. But they quite like the idea of solid dry floor that they can drive on.

Reckon its going to be about 20m3 of concrete.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
The outside wood is it for the cement mold?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

yes so its flat if its lumpy it will get moved around by frost heave.

After 3-4 days will take the wood out and then back fill with gravel so there is a soakaway round it.

Which is another reason why the farmers like it because they would normal make up two rings round the belt foundation and then once its removed then have to back fill and level the centre part.

To me having it open means it can move more because the internal ground is free to be displaced up and down. If i cap it with a slab thats attached to the belt the ground can't move and suction and compression will resist movement. Ie if one side wants to go down the suction at the opposite side will resist it preventing rotation.

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Job done now just keep the wildlife away and put plastic over it tomorrow.

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(OP)
You need to put your signature and year in somewhere before it sets. winky smile
Kind of like
"Built in 2021 by the smartest Scot in the country Alistair Heaton" bigsmile
or something.

The grey ting under the reinforcement mat what's that?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

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Nah.

Some one at work asked if I had done a hand print.

Said nag tea bagged it so it's got my balls and cock print.... Proper Scottish mech eng signed

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
rofl2
thumbsup2

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

You might want to loosen the formwork, the day after the concrete is cast... then you can easily 'remove' it 2 or 3 days later.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

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Looks good.
When I had my driveway poured, they asked if I wanted to do my handprint in the cement.
I said sure! Walked over to the bag, poured a little out, handprint.
I got puzzled looks.

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Might have started a new traditional with concrete spreaders in Estonia.

Think everyone involved has advanced a level in Scottish swearing today...

The pump guy used to work in my home town Aberdeen for 2 years he was crying with laughter at some points.

Saying gawd I miss the spontaneous abuse you lot deal out to people you like.

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Have Plastic sheet to cover the whole lot. Wanted to put contraction groove's in but told it's 105mm thick and C30 don't need them by the pump guy.

As I only know the preferred sexual partners of civils IE sheep. I will take his word for it. By all accounts taking C30 gets rid of most of the bollocks with concrete

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It turned up with the full certification paper work which I was rather amused by.

Turns out the boss has a pilot license. And it was 30 Deg C when they pumped it.

The pump guy says the sewage farm's don't get that treatment when they are taking 100m3

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Btw what is a inverted pyramid slop test?

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

It's a cone shaped container that you fill with concrete that has been 'rodded' into it, and when you have finished, you remove the cone shaped container and let the concrete settle (it's now not confined) and you measure the amount it has settled. This is a measure of the workability of the concrete and the amount of 'shrinkage' that can be expected. High slump means it settled a lot and low slump is the opposite. High slump concrete is generally easier to work with but shrinks more. Concrete can be 'forced' to be more fluid by the action of chemicals called superplasticisers.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Thanks

Zero clue something I really don't need for a farm workshop floor especially as I don't have a clue....

Not going to complain. The concrete dude said this is not the normal stuff for this job!

Think I have lucked out. Could probably land on this now. A two ton tractor should no issues



RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

When I a senior in Engineering school I worked for the MEEM (Mechanical Engineering-Engineering Mechanics) department as a sort of general technician/draftsman/photographer/whatever. Anyway, one of the professors had gotten a research grant to develop some sort of device that you could just insert into a batch of concrete and get a reading that could interpret the same characteristics of the concrete as would have been determined by a 'slump test'. Note that I graduated before the first prototype was built so I don't know what came of it, but at the time, it was the best assignment that I had had during my time working for the university. Anyway, my job was to make the drawings for all of the parts that the school's machine shop needed to fabricate, and the pay was very good. The professor basically took that part of the grant which had been earmarked to pay for the production of the detailed drawings and divided that by the number of hours that it took me to finish the assignment and that's how much I was paid. It turned out to be just under $10/hr (this was back in 1971) but the job only lasted a couple of weeks, however it did put a bunch of extra food on the table for me and my family.

As best as I could determine, the device consisted of a 'probe' that you would insert into a batch of wet concrete. The probe was attached to a rod that moved back and forth and which was connected to a sensor to measure the resistance of the movement of the probe inserted in the batch of concrete, and based on the values recorded, would determine the characteristic of the final concrete after it had hardened. Like I said, I never heard how it all went as it was something that I wasn't really that familiar with and since my job was just to produce the final set of drawings, I was not wedded to the outcome all that much because I had been compensated for my effort and then I moved on, graduated and had other things on my mind.

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I used to have to pretend I knew what was talking about doing FEA jobs with concrete.

The people that do are welcome to It. From what i could see the civils didn't actually understand tension. They had a load of rules of thumb to protect themselves. But then structural had a load of "numbers" which nobody could ever qualify apart from saying the code says...

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I might add I have been throwing tin at tarmac for over 15 years now... And so I can freely admit that any FEA job I did that involved concrete was ropy as feck. And the ones that involved concrete plus contact elements were just purely fantasy...

but not anywhere near the same bullshite that the CFD lot used to pedal as fact... I don't know how some of them could look in the mirror in the morning

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Modelling concrete in FEM can be tricky...

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

its a fecking witch I found only thing worse was bone titanium glue interface for artificial hips.

I used to do experimental verification on my models. Managed to get the Bio eng stuff through but concrete was way outside tolerance even with 25 plus test pieces.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I'm not so sure that is more difficult.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

it is Mooney Rivlin comes into play bone isn't solid and is kept together with springy bio crap.




RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
It looks like the weather gods are with you . smile
No Jack Frost to talk about in sight. thumbsup2

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Going -4 tonight and humidity dropping to 60%. But its passed the 24hrs humidity has been over 85% so will put plastic over it this morning and leave it for the winter to do its thing apart from take the wood out at some point.

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Right done

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
thumbsup2
You have deserved some beer and sauna then a bit of "vacation". winky smile

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I can feel the stress levels dropping off now its done.

Just seen the question about grey thing.

You want the whole lot liquid during the pour so a pump mixer with 5m3 and a mixer with 8m3 turn up. You then fill the trench round the outside relatively slowly up to just below the grid. It takes about 5-6 circuits round the outside. Then then they make sure that they have enough onsite for the top plate and do that. They were adamant that the trench had to be kept moving a bit until the top was on and smoothed.

The whole thing was poured and levelled in 45 mins. The pump operator was dealing with all the timings with the concrete guy doing the smoothing.

I was very impressed and said so. The pump guy said it been fun doing this job, the concrete guy knows his stuff and this is a perfect job for this time of year on a Thursday. As you took the C30 the boss loaded the paving slab production on as well so when we get back we just have to fill the moulds up and wash down means there was no messing around with quantities so just pump until its full and that's what you get charged for. No nonsense having to try and get rid of special mixes.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Hmm no I meant that grey "stuff" under the reinforcement mat the gravel looks much more light and yellow in the first picture.



So I thought that the grey stuff must be something else. ponder


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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Grey is the trench filled with concrete.

The whole lot has 100mm foam under it then a plastic moisture barrier. Then rebar ad then filled with concrete.

I don't actually think I got C30 I think it was something else. I just listed the properties I wanted and what it was used for and said I think I need C30 but you tell me your the experts. OK I know what you need and will charge you the C30 price.

So I might have ended with a giant pavement slab. And as they survive the local winters very well I will be more than happy with that.

Which might explain the certification paper work if they have done it for the slab production for export and couldn't be bothered producing a "small job" mix. It would also explain why it was so easy to get the timings right it they had loads of it made for slabs or were mixing it constantly all day.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Okey thanks.
Well I did thought I saw some ground insulation boards in some picture. smile

That was what they used to burn up my apartment. sad
Burns like hell if you put them on fire.

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

There are none inside my house. Only used rockwool.

Quite why anyone would put them inside a house I don't know even for noise suppression.

They give off nasty fumes as well when on fire.

Think they are perfectly safe though under all that concrete.

Just been googling concrete curing and temperature and humidity etc. Its very interesting how many factors come into play.

I knew you were best to cover it to stop the water escaping. But all the temperature V time curing and eventual strength is quite interesting with colossal variations.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
The isolation boards wasn't used as building material in my house, or in inside it in any way.
The house I live in is concrete with outside wood walls and I guess fireproof isolation in the walls.
They where building a group home for people with disabilities next door and a contractor hade placed them outside the house beside the outside wall.
They where going to be used as ground isolation for the new foundation.
But the plan drawings where wrong so everything was postponed and some kids thought it was a good idea making a fire there almost burning down the whole house.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
I guess the burning of concrete is a bit like hardening steel the temp and how fast you cool it down makes the atomic structure different.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

There is people here that do it for a career.

I am clueless. But it's interesting reading about it.


High temp quick cure to 50% strength but reduced 28day

Cold temp utterly rubbish strength at 7days but you get 110% at 28 days. Mine is going to sit with plastic on it for the next 4 months.

Which should stop any contraction cracking to boot

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

In cold climates and if there is the potential for frost heave, rigid extruded polypropylene insulation is often used under the perimeter and interior of the stiffened slab, extending out for a distance equal to the frost penetration.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
I do have a bit of a "concrete" problem myself.
I do have two balconies in my apartment one at front door and one at the back from the living room.
The one at the back is made of wood but the one at front has a cement/concrete floor.
The finish of the concrete is very rough, and it isn't very even over the whole surface.
Of course it does not get slippery during the winter, but it is a pain in the ass keeping it clean from dirt, earth, sand, gravel and snow trying to sweep it clean.
It have a roof over it but still.
And after the fire when many people was running in and out there is stains and stuff of god knows what on it.
So at one point I was thinking I might try to put some kind of finish on it, concrete, cement or concrete paint but it needs to be able to either breath or at least withstand frozen water without cracking.
So I did talk to someone at a building store but they couldn't say either way.
Whit a hard finish it would be easy to sweep but become slippery in the winter so a compromise might be needed haven't gotten any further then that.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I would put scree on it then use a texture press to put a pattern on it to not get slippery. But that would then give depression for fungus to grow in.

But nothing that could be cleaned off with a domestic pressure blower once a year.

Dik knows way more about it than me

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Those concrete balconies have a habit of falling off over here

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
lol I am quite sure it want fall off. winky smile
Mainly because the house isn't super old and we try to learn from our mistakes.

I found this picture it's in a corner and I guess there are steal beams and a lot if reinforcement mats in it.
You can't se the concrete floor here but it is quite thick.
I guess what happens with the ones falling down is that the steel bars rusts and that is it.



And the building regulation and rules are quite extensive, mostly because the banks would not lend you money for building a property without it, since the property is the mortgage for the loan.

Of course there is cheaters and bad building practice here too, but I do have a feeling it's worse in other places.

I will try to take some pictures tomorrow when it is light might explain things better.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Well you won't have soviet design or concrete quality standards to deal with.

They really do fall off with remarkable regularity in the Baltics. And they have also managed to fiddle the law that its the owners responsibility when they do fail because everything was deemed inside tolerances and acceptable limits when the soviet union failed. And after that then any failure is the owners fault for not maintaining the property. Which is why i was extremely glad when the Mrs sold her soviet "leaders" grade apartment in Tallinn. The thing was a death trap both plumbing and electrics. The Gable ends where screwed as well in my opinion. But what do I know as a mechie stick monkey. The locals said they were fine and all of them are like that.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
smile
I do believe you ..
We have hade really "old" apartment buildings that haven't been maintained properly, they have gotten there balcony's declared of limit until they are fixed because they where not safe.

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Anyway unfortunately I was forced into drinking 4 ltrs of beer with the locals. And got what the local guys were saying in local lingo which I couldn't understand.

Concrete guy asked pump guy WTF is this its not C30. Pump guy "are you complaining?" reply "no it makes my life so much easier" "well stop bitching your feet are too hot.." "but this is a stupid domestic job" "its not our job to argue with our masters"

It was also suggested that if I can wangle it the boss gets a jump seat next time he flies to Germany. Which I really don't think is possible but the locals want me to make it happen so we continue the special relationship with the boss because this is the way things are done with Russians. Moving and dealing...

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Hmm I guess they really hade to make an effort forcing four liters of beer into you. lol
I do remember you promised me a jump seat too. winky smile
Wouldn't hold it against you though if you didn't manage it, with all the security and rules in place.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

that was the total not what I drank.

They had shit loads than me before I departed. Have to get this place ready for winter tomorrow

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
I did go and fetched my the keys from the summer house last Saturday, I have a not so secret stash. winky smile
I thought I go by Mola and have some coffee, but I so him on my driving there so I didn't.
When I come to the SH there was this women standing on the drive way and when she hade moved so I could get in an park I so this man sneaking around the corner.
When I got out of the car he came back out on the drive way.
It was a third cousin of mine.
He sade he was just looking around to see that everything looked okey. smile
I asked if it did and he sade yes.
But it turned out he hade a full blather and was looking for a place to pee, but he didn't get it done before I turned up. lol

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Quote (an effort forcing four liters of beer into you.)


I can just imagine Alister, struggling.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

It's difficult cleaning concrete sometimes other than using shotblasting. There are some commercial cleaners manufactured by Prosoco that are very good, and you might want to contact them to see if they have a local distributer.

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
When they did the end finish they made it like in circles which makes it very difficult to sweep with the broom.

Before sweeping.



After sweeping.



It is just annoying.
If the finish hade been smother it would have been easier.
And sanding it down I thought would take to much work compared with "filling" it up.
But then it needs to be clean and the bounding between the different layers/materials good.
Maybe diffusion open paint for stone work would work but I do not think it is durable enough. ponder

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

The grinding it down isn't that bad apart from the mess.

We did it before putting the tiles down. There is a powdery top layer that forms that you need to get rid of before you seal it and then put the glue down.

We used the same machine as we used for sanding wood floors but with a concrete disk on it.

Other way would be get someone to do a scree layer over the top of that which they then polish.

Or you could tile it with 10mm of glue.

Thinking about it I will grind mine on a windy sunny day next year. I want to be able to have a pallet truck run over it for pallets of fire wood. its pretty smooth already but it will also get rid of that powdery crud. Then put sealant down.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I think that's what they call a "brush finish",I.e. wait for a while after pouring then literally brush the surface with a stiff brush. So you are at the mercy of the person on the end of the brush.

But otherwise it would be too slippery when it got wet or dirty.

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Well rain isn't a big issue, and it's only a couple of times a year when it's storming and snowing and blowing from the wrong direction there is snow on it.
So I guess I am trying to find some middle ground here making it easier to keep clean and getting ride of the snow,
without making it slippery like black ice. winky smile
Not being able to brush it of properly makes the snow melt and freeze and become ice.
And it always looks dirty in the summer, not my biggest issue but it would make it more worth the effort when brushing it if you at least could see some difference after doing it.

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

How many sq meters?

Those tiles I used here are outside neg temp rated and so is the glue.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
A standard door here is 80 cm so I would estimate it to ca. 3 meters x 2 meters = 6 m2



“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I would tile it with something dark with a bit of texture.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
Hmm we Swedes don't like dark. winky smile
It must be birch, white walls and strict lines. lol
I guess it would work if the tile isn't that thick, need to be able to open the doors.
I might even choose two different tiles the part of the balcony floor that I actually "walk" on is just a small part so I would only have to have a textured tile on that part. ponder
I guess stone glue / adhesive that is used for stone walls outside might work?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

https://www.ceresit.com/en/products/tiling/tiling-...

I would use something like that.

Reason why i said dark is so any sun will heat it up and melt the ice.

You could even run carbon fibre heating wire under it if you really wanted.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

seems I got C35/45 PAV 2 what ever the hell that is. 100 euro a m3 including delivery and pumping I ain't going to argue

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
You got a better type of concrete it seems, "for plant structures such as bridges, which are subjected to freezing and thawing salt, the strength class C35/45 is standard."
and Paving concrete "PAV2 is a substantial, heavy-duty use concrete suitable for commercial and industrial use.
PAV 2 mixes have an air entrainment additive to create micro sized air bubbles in the concrete, helping to protect the surface from frost, specifically freeze-thaw cycles, and making it suitable for use with de-icing salts."

Looks like you have a good start for something that will stand for some hundred years. smile

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

He must know my mother in law is going to be walking on it.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Is that before or after she gets electrocuted on the toilet?

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Hey that bodge fix is still working a treat.

In fact its been fitted now in a few toilets in the area.

And they weren't getting electrocuted. Just a bit of a tingle to their fanny's when the floor was wet.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)


I thought you named your tractor motherinlaw..
There seems to be some information missing here ponder toilettes, electricity, fanny's ... not sure where all this will end up, I guess the tractor is out.. couldn't fit that one in a toilet..

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

The tractor will need half the PCN of the auld bat walking across it.

It happened a while back the BIL was having issues with his electric underfloor heating and leakage of current while people were sitting on the toilet.

The group conclusion was that the concrete rebar had to get earthed properly and there was a bare bit of wire somewhere. Digging up the floor wasn't going to happen.

So in the end I used a 2 pole power transfer relay to disconnect the live and neutral when the light switch was turned on and we swapped out the water heater.

Apparently the BIL's toilet wasn't the only one to have the same issue.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
It sound really strange, not that I haven't heard about this kind of problem before, but then there was no floor heating involved.
What kind of bathroom floor did he have before?
Is it AC or low voltages DC system?
The other ones that had this problem did they also install floor heating?

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Its a twin core heating cable the cheap type you can get in the diy shop AC that goes into a 230V thermal switch with a TC into the concrete to prevent overheating.

They all at some point have a problem with rotten wood flooring. So they fill the bottom up with foam then plastic barrier then RE grid on frogs heating wire then gets attached to the grid with something I suspect its rebar wrap wire then about 50-70mm of concrete goes on top with the TC sunk into the top.

I had put in hygiene sprayers in our place next to our toilets and then all the women wanted them as these things go round as they used the toilets at our ours.

BIL fitted them at his and then with me and him sitting drinking beer in the kitchen later on in the year when the heating had been put on (mainly for wine fermenting purposes) the SIL went to use the toilet and the most hilarious noises issued as she used the spray as she got a tingle where she least expected on pressing the spray trigger.

I still don't have a clue if it was an earthing issue or break in the wire insulation. I used a 2 pole power transfer relay that the heating is on when the light is off and when the lights on it disconnects both the live and the neutral. Which stopped the noises issuing.

I use single core carbon fibre AC cable in 10mm of scree on top of 10mm concrete fibre plate with wood under it. 9 lengths 9 meters long and I can uncouple them externally individually then I loose 300W output.

The cable they use is just two wires coming out the concrete. So if there is a problem the whole system is scrap. They don't like the single wire because it takes a day with a hot glue gun to put the loops in and wire it. Where as they can put 5 meters 1kW of the twin core in 10 mins.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Here is an excerpt, Anna.

Quote (Alistair)

Said "fanny washer" is now a thing with the local lady's. They all want one... I gave a spare to the BIL.

It was put on line today...

The screams when the fanny washer earthed through the toilet were unbelievable after 20m of copper pipe building up static.... 3 bar...

my ribs are hurting with laughing...
Here is the link: thread1528-467066: Electrical issue in a Toilet

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Very random but never get rid of that wheel barrow. My family has had ours for over 30 years. Tru ames? it's a welded frame and super tough. If you go to a hardware store now adays, they are all many pieces since they're intended to ship 50 at one time on a pallet. Imagine shipping one of the tru ames ones with the welded frame. I can imagine fitting only 4 on a pallet. But, they last forever. Construction crews go through one of those new wheelbarrows every week.

I remember on some foundations they will remove from under the high spot. Probably not best practice though. You can only go down so far

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

its actually new but yes it is a welded frame and takes the local standard wheels which everything and I mean everything snow blowers pallet trucks, kids carts use.

https://www.k-rauta.ee/c/aed-auto/aiatehnika/aiaka...

I think I got it for 35 euro which is about 40 bucks. 100 ltrs. Every 6 months or so that DIY shop has some pretty major clearances and they even give you the trade discount on top.

Think that one is made in Poland. The polish make a lot of solid gear. My shite pump with mincer on the bottom is Polish and its brilliant as well. Good solid engineering.




RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
That reminded me that I was going to buy a better wheel barrow to the summer house.
But they haven't got that model at K-Rauta here just the ones that you screw together. sad

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RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

I agree with Michael they are shite.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

Limex is the brand to search for if you want one like mine

Ask in kraupt they are pretty good at getting stuff in on order.

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
They have one equal but it's 240 EUR Swedish made.

We have the other type on the allotment they are made of aluminum, it's not so much the screws that annoys me I wouldn't use it so many times a year.
It's the wheels they need to be pumped and then the handles are usually to low so you can't walk up strait when you are using them.

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

get a makita 18V compressor. They are brilliant

RE: Foundation issue, how to fix old foundations and how much effort to put into it.

(OP)
I have a Ryobi. smile
Use it mostly to the bicycle but sometimes to the car too.

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