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Painting Defect

Painting Defect

Painting Defect

(OP)
Hy there, i have a few question about painting defect,
now i run my shop for painting plastic material to supply metallizing process, but when we use basecoat material,most of them is not good, like there is bubble, or grain of sand, or even like a contamination.

if you have any clue of it, please give your opinion, thanks
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RE: Painting Defect

Have you contacted your paint supplier? If not, search "solvent popping" to give you some questions to ask your paint supplier.

RE: Painting Defect

(OP)
solvent popping occur when curing temperature too fast isn't ? i thought, that is not my problems, cause before we place part to the oven, i can see the bubble at first.

sorry for the letter, English is not my first language.

Ramadhani

RE: Painting Defect

Perhaps there is dust/detritus in the spray booth? I'd suggest oils on the part, but that typically results in an open pore rather than a bump. A picture would help us define what's actually there...

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RE: Painting Defect

Mold release still on the part.

RE: Painting Defect

Mold release compounds usually causes "fish-eyes". Plastics are fairly permeable and perhaps could contain some contaminant that is rising to the surface during painting. Maybe run the part through the oven once prior to painting?

RE: Painting Defect

It could be the parts need drying prior to coating. Most plastics absorb moisture from the air. This is released when parts are heated.
What is the material you are coating?


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RE: Painting Defect

Contamination sounds very plausible and you have obviously considered it. So what have you done about it? Use a microscope. There is nothing we can do to help you, given the information that you have provided.

RE: Painting Defect

(OP)
1)Perhaps there is dust/detritus in the spray booth? I'd suggest oils on the part, but that typically results in an open pore rather than a bump. A picture would help us define what's actually there...
ans; soon i'll post the pict

2)-Mold release compounds usually causes "fish-eyes". Plastics are fairly permeable and perhaps could contain some contaminant that is rising to the surface during painting. Maybe run the part through the oven once prior to painting?
ans: so we need to oven the part before washing process ?

3)It could be the parts need drying prior to coating. Most plastics absorb moisture from the air. This is released when parts are heated. What is the material you are coating?
ans: most of our part use PP, and ABS.

4)Contamination sounds very plausible and you have obviously considered it. So what have you done about it? Use a microscope. There is nothing we can do to help you, given the information that you have provided.
ans: For the first time, i thought if contaminant is the main problems, but we have already change the cloth for washing part,and multiply time for maintenance paintbooth, but it still appear, so everybody on my place like thought that we can't handle about it, so we need to do something else.

Ramadhani

RE: Painting Defect

Bake it after all of the washing and before the painting. Baking is a great way to drive off volatile compounds.

RE: Painting Defect

Degrease it first, then bake?

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RE: Painting Defect

(OP)
1) Bake it after all of the washing and before the painting. Baking is a great way to drive off volatile compounds.
ans: thanks for your advice, gonna try soon.

2) Degrease it first, then bake?
ans: we don't try that yet, cause the oldest way we know is de-grease first then spray with airgun, and after that we do the coating process. but, thanks for your advice, we'll try soon.

Ramadhani

RE: Painting Defect

it was a WAG... trying to get rid of all possible sources of contamination.

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RE: Painting Defect

(OP)
sorry for asking, what is WAG ?

Ramadhani

RE: Painting Defect

Wild Assed Guess...

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-Dik

RE: Painting Defect

(OP)


that is the image of defect but after metalizing process

Ramadhani

RE: Painting Defect

Bake your material.

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