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Difference of Opinion on Casting CUBEs per EN 12390-2

Difference of Opinion on Casting CUBEs per EN 12390-2

Difference of Opinion on Casting CUBEs per EN 12390-2

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Looking for the good folks of Europe/UK. On the project on which I am working, concrete samples are cast in 150x150x150 cubes - not US/Canada style cylinders. (All dimensions given in mm.) The Contractor's Laboratory and myself are having a bit of difference on the details of casting.

The Contractor's laboratory is casting the cubes in two layers insofar as EN 12390-2:2000 states that layers placed are to be no more than 100 mm - Page 5 Section 5 Procedures, subsection 5.1.2. Hence 75/75 works. The Contractor's laboratory does 25 roddings per layer.

According to Hong Kong's Standards (based on EN 12390) there are to be, in a 150x150x150 cube, three layers of no more than 50 mm per layer rodded a minimum of 35 times - page 38. If using a 100x100x100 mould, 25 minimum roddings. ( https://www.cedd.gov.hk/filemanager/eng/content_75... ). This document is from 2010.

According to the 2017 Practical Guide for Site Personnel issued by British Ready Mix Concrete Association ( https://www.brmca.org.uk/documents/BRMCA_Ready_Mix... ), Appendix D, page 34, step 2 it is also as per the Hong Kong Standards. - 50 mm layers with minimum 35 roddings.

It seems to me that the BRMCA and HK are using a later version of EN 12390-2 than from the year 2000.

Can someone please confirm if the BRMCA and HK are the current operative requirements of EN 12390-2 - and if so, what is the latest revision year of EN 12390-2. I simply, at this time, require confirmation.

Thanks in advance and cheers
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RE: Difference of Opinion on Casting CUBEs per EN 12390-2

EN 12390-2:2009


(5.1.2 Depending on the consistence of the concrete and the method of compaction, moulds shall be filled in
one or more layers to achieve full compaction. In the case of self-compacting concrete, the mould shall be
filled in one operation and no mechanical compaction shall be applied during filling or after the mould is filled....)


I am not sure for the latest version ( EN 12390-2:2019 )..

RE: Difference of Opinion on Casting CUBEs per EN 12390-2

(OP)
Thanks HTURKAK - but not for SCC - just normal C25/30 or C16/20. It's strange that BRMCA would have something different than that .. .

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