Joint FEA Stress
Joint FEA Stress
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Under static condition, the bolt hole stress shows some stress above yield, localized, the stress near the bolt head is below yield...
Should we use tensile strength instead of yield to do margin of safety check? I see the area underneath bolt head may experience little yield under bolt pretension.
Thank you!
RE: Joint FEA Stress
Please draw a free body diagram.
Second - the results adjacent the fastener hole will be very sensitive to how this has been modelled.
Normally I would not work with model stresses at fastener holes. Rather I would extract loads from the fastener, then hand calculate stresses and margins as required .
RE: Joint FEA Stress
this type of stress peak has been with us since the first hole was drilled. This is localised plasticity that does not affect the structural integrity of the structure.
This is why we have bearing stress allowables and fastener load allowables (so we don't need to burrow down into the weeds).
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RE: Joint FEA Stress
RE: Joint FEA Stress
But that would make the model simpler and faster. You're putting an army of FEA jocks out of work!
RE: Joint FEA Stress
It is similar to lap joint under bending condition. after model washer into FEM, I see the stress even higher...
Was expecting some localized yielding and and the stress near bolt head is below yield... But it seems there are some red area with higher than UTS.
Will consider to use NL properties unless we are able to reduce the stress around the hole below UTS or only localized yielding.
Note: Customer wants to see colorful result... So, I show stress plot... :P
RE: Joint FEA Stress
RE: Joint FEA Stress
Have a look in the USAF stress manual, from memory the section on lug analysis includes a closed-form method for analysing a beam in a socket which is somewhat similar to the scenario you're showing here. In short, the moment on the pin results in a triangular bearing stress distribution through the thickness of the lugs.
You could perhaps validate your FE analysis against the USAF closed-form solution.
RE: Joint FEA Stress
If this is "truly" what you're modelling, model the contact between the plates, the preload, and NL material.
By all means show the customer the pretty pictures (they're some of our best "work") but it's difficult to relate to reality.
ultimate load ? ... apply a factored load ... stress results still "good" (NL material < ftu), then factor is your MS (conservatively)
limit load ? ... you are allowed limited "not significant" yielding at limit (as opposed to the usual trope "no yielding at limit" ... once you're looking at this detail, there'll always be some yielding at limit).
fatigue ... could be an issue ...
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RE: Joint FEA Stress
This seems to be largely a repeat of many of the same things discussed in the following thread: thread2-480875: Writing Limit Margins when Plastic Deformation Occurs
I fully agree with many of the comments above regarding fictitious stress artifacts sometimes resulting from FEM (as I noted in the other thread). However, I will also note the same caveat I did there.
Before "writing off" those peak stresses as non-problematic, it is pretty important to try to understand why they are appearing in the first place. How exactly are your joints modeled in the FEM (are the peak stresses the result from RBE "attachment points" or something else model related? Or is there something going on with the way you've loaded the model or constrained it?
Based on your description and FBD above - "It is similar to a lap joint under bending condition"... first off, I'm having trouble thinking of where that would be actually implemented as a design decision. But, that is a situation where you could very well in fact have a lot of eccentricity. Because of the rotation of the plates and the way the fastener impinges on the hole inner surface, you will have a highly skewed effective bearing area. This will cause the bearing load to be distributed over a much smaller area, and you could actually see pretty high stresses there.
Last, I will also note, that once you start running a non-linear analysis, writing margins becomes less about Ftu and more about strain. Remember, Ftu is usually higher than the rupture stress for ductile materials. So if you are running this non-linearly, where the stress will locally redistribute once it passes Fty, you actually want to write a strain margin. You should check that the strain at your ultimate load is less than the rupture strain. You should also be checking the scale of the plastically deformed material to make sure it is reasonable, and probably also check the maximum displacement as well.
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