Bearing Locknut Question
Bearing Locknut Question
(OP)
Hi eng-tips,
As you see in the pictures, I have a design (basically, a cross-section of the drive end of a simple conveyor). When my boss reviewed it, he recommended using a bearing lock nut on the right-hand side (so right after coupler, pressed against the inner ring of bearing). He said that will keep the bearing inner ring sit against the collars/spacers (shown in gray), eliminating shaft axial play because of bearing clearances. So I thought that's generally a good idea and it made sense.
But am curious is that always necessary? What if I leave it without a locknut, then I have micro inches of shaft movement, is that really going to affect the function or is it something that entirely depends on the application. So in some cases, it might be fine to have some play, but let's say in a machine spindle you want to eliminate all the play so you should be using it.
Is there any other reason to use locknut in this situation?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Vahid
As you see in the pictures, I have a design (basically, a cross-section of the drive end of a simple conveyor). When my boss reviewed it, he recommended using a bearing lock nut on the right-hand side (so right after coupler, pressed against the inner ring of bearing). He said that will keep the bearing inner ring sit against the collars/spacers (shown in gray), eliminating shaft axial play because of bearing clearances. So I thought that's generally a good idea and it made sense.
But am curious is that always necessary? What if I leave it without a locknut, then I have micro inches of shaft movement, is that really going to affect the function or is it something that entirely depends on the application. So in some cases, it might be fine to have some play, but let's say in a machine spindle you want to eliminate all the play so you should be using it.
Is there any other reason to use locknut in this situation?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Vahid
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What keeps the shaft from sliding out to the left - the coupling?
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My information is wrong then, sorry I looked it and you are right, the play will be much more than that.
they are deep groove ball bearings.
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Your assembly with retaining rings on both sides in the housing will have quite a bit of axial freedom (much more than the bearing clearances). This appears to be a chain conveyor so the axial position of the roller is not likely sensitive. A worse cases is an oscillating motion that wears out the bearing housing but this is all unrelated to your original question.
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Great post! Yes, it's a chain conveyor, but I did not realize the issue with the retaining rings, thanks for pointing that out.
If I get rid of the locating rings and mirror the shoulder on bearing housings (so the bearing will be located on one side by the spacer/collar and the other side by the shoulder in the housing - outer ring), this should eliminate the assembly moving left and right because of the clearance in the retaining rings groove, correct? But I guess it makes fitting things a bit more challenging?
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This calls for a line to line or slight interference fit between the shaft and bearing inner race, lest the inner race/ring continually creep ( "spin" ) on the shaft and wear everybody out before rotating 1 million times.
Axial inner race clamping can not be expected to prevent that creeping.
Check out page 69 of this PDF. -
https://www.skf.com/binaries/pub12/Images/0901d196...
Check your bearing catalog for guidelines and rules for proper bearing shaft and housing fits, based on the nature of the bearing loads.
The accommodation of axial thermal expansion is often set by holding one bearing outer race "fixed" axially, and giving the other "free/floating" bearing a few .001" slip fit in its housing, and plenty of axial clearance.
There are other ways, but they typically require fancier machining and fitting at assembly.
Long shot is having the free bearing mounted on a bulkhead or frame that is axially very flexible to limit the axial thrust load from thermal expansion.
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Here is another FAG design guide with a broader range of examples.
If I understand the OP's device ( kind of doubtful ) the shaft rotates, kind of like an electric motor.
As a start if the shaft rotates and the load is one directional a slip fit on the shaft on the shaft is doomed even when clamped by bearing nuts securing the inner rings.
Getting familiar with bearing catalogs and talking to a bearing OEM application engineer will confirm or deny this.
I venture the application engineer will ask many questions after receiving info in the OP's OP.
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As TugboatEng said, I'm using deep groove bearing in this application and overall simple arrangements.
I read about bearing settings/arrangements that I wasn't very well versed in, the past few days and now I have a much better grasp of the topic.
Thanks guys!